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Where did PIE go? WHO and UNESCO new guidance has routes in Queer Theory, Sex Positivity and believes children are "sexual from birth"

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2fallsfromSSA · 30/04/2023 15:34

We have published a very alarming review of new guidelines.

In short, we are really alarmed by what we see coming out of both UNESCO and WHO.

Tanya Carter Safe Schools Alliance said “This alarming, but sadly unsurprising, research sets out how long-established child safeguarding principles are being effectively dismantled. This leaves all children at risk. Adults, professionally charged with the protection of children, have failed in their duty to identify this and this abdication of responsibility has left generations of children at risk of harm. Children are being left to navigate a minefield of predatory behaviour online without either protection or guidance. Those who have allowed this to happen must be identified and held to account by the global community.”

Read the report: https://safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2023/04/29/unesco-who-sexuality-education/

Here is the rest of the Press Release

SSA has just published an independent review of two standards documents produced by UNESCO and the WHO. These standards underpin the global initiative for Comprehensive Sexuality Education (CSE), currently promoted by UNESCO’s ‘Foundation for Life and Love Campaign.’

SSAUK believes that these Standards demonstrate how UNESCO and WHO have been compromised and are working to undermine standard child safeguarding principles.

The review reveals the extent to which the WHO and UNESCO’s standards are ideologically aligned with Queer Theory and with a ‘sex positive’ approach to Sexuality (not Sex) Education.

Queer Theory challenges boundaries that are put in place to preserve “so-called ‘oppressive’ ideas” such as the importance of child safeguarding. The UNESCO and WHO documents and guidelines do the same, stating that children are ‘sexual from birth,’ and accordingly require sexual knowledge to fulfil their right to sexual pleasure.

'Sex positivity’ is central to Queer Theory. This review finds that the WHO and UNESCO standards use the concept of sex positivity to reframe safeguarding barriers such as the age of consent as an “injustice”, and to advocate for children’s engagement in sexual activity with their peers, parents and other adults.

Both organisations appear to have abandoned a safeguarding first approach, explaining this shift as necessary to enable a ‘positive’ approach to sex and sexuality. The issue of grooming is conspicuously absent in both sets of standards, and sexual abuse is referenced primarily as justification for providing comprehensive sexuality education from birth.

It is clear that parents who do not acquiesce are viewed as a threat. UNESCO’s ‘key concepts’ promotes the idea that children’s values may differ from their parents’ and, to undermine parents’ legitimate concerns about the contents of Sexuality Education, these concerns are minimised by the UN as “misconceptions.”

Comprehensive sexuality education: A foundation for life and love campaign

https://en.unesco.org/themes/education-health-and-well-being/cse-campaign

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WarriorN · 30/04/2023 15:43

Jfc. Well there it is. In plain sight.

Thank you SSAUK for what looks like an incredibly in-depth and detailed report.

2fallsfromSSA · 30/04/2023 15:45

If you don't have time to read the whole report, take a looking at the table near the end, from page 51 onwards.

There, you get a snapshot view of the kinds of statements being made by UNESCO and WHO alongside similar comments made by P.I.E. in their manifesto from the 70s.

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WarriorN · 30/04/2023 15:55

The UN Independent Expert on protection against violence and discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identityy* (IE SOGI), Mr. Victor Madrigal-Borlozz*, will conduct a formal country visit to the United Kingdom from 24 April to 5 May 2023. Safe Schools Alliance have been invited to meet with him during his visit. We will be drawing his attention to this review and expressing our concerns.

I hope he takes them seriously

ResisterRex · 30/04/2023 15:57

That table at the end makes for grim, undeniable reading.

WarriorN · 30/04/2023 16:18

Fucking hell it is!

FOJN · 30/04/2023 16:22

This is a quote from the PIE column on page 51 of the report. Any sane adult would wonder what kind of research Kinsey did to establish this fact. It's disturbing that a variation of Kinsey's theory of "childhood sexuality" is reproduced across all columns in that table.

"Kinsey shows in his research that the early pre-pubertal orgastic experience is similar to the post-pubertal experience."

I watched a documentary a couple of years ago about how Kinsey developed his theory of "childhood sexuality". The Kinsey Institute either refused to release the documentation or claim it doesn't exist but as I understand it Kinsey obtained his information from a paedophile who he asked to keep detailed records about his abuse of children, including babies.

I really don't think we should trust a paedophile on anything they tell us about children.

I'll post a link if I can find the documentary again.

WarriorN · 30/04/2023 16:30

First person I thought of when I started to read this was Kinsey

WarriorN · 30/04/2023 16:31

@FOJN I think that was on channel 4? Quite a while ago.

Flowerly · 30/04/2023 16:32

The endgame writ large.

WarriorN · 30/04/2023 16:33

I think this is it. From 1998.

FOJN · 30/04/2023 16:37

I don't think this is the one I originally saw but its about how Kinsey gathered reports from paedophiles. How the fuck are we still treating this man's research with credibility in 2023.

ResisterRex · 30/04/2023 16:38

And Kinsey more recently: apnews.com/article/indiana-state-government-bloomington-98bdb1ae5e6441b6c756f153639726ae

FOJN · 30/04/2023 16:42

ResisterRex · 30/04/2023 16:38

Democratic Rep. Matt Pierce, whose Bloomington district includes the university campus, responded that Sweet’s claims were “based on old unproven allegations of conspiracies that did not exist,” calling them “warmed-over internet memes that keep coming back.”

FFS

WarriorN · 30/04/2023 16:46

FOJN · 30/04/2023 16:37

I don't think this is the one I originally saw but its about how Kinsey gathered reports from paedophiles. How the fuck are we still treating this man's research with credibility in 2023.

they're the same channel 4 documentary - I agree that I think I've read something elsewhere about what you describe

Redebs · 30/04/2023 16:55

There are still politicians like Peter Tatchell hanging around, who'd be very happy at this report

Boiledbeetle · 30/04/2023 16:57

I am about to go off and have a read but before I do:

PIE never went anywhere. It's been underpinning all of this all along.

This has never been about the adults

Where did PIE go? WHO and UNESCO new guidance has routes in Queer Theory, Sex Positivity and believes children are "sexual  from birth"
Boiledbeetle · 30/04/2023 17:18

@2fallsfromSSA I'm going to be honest I thought I was prepared for what i was about to read.

I wasn't. So for now I have only skimmed it

To the people who put that all together my heart goes out to you. That can't have been an easy task.

To those in power thinking those documents are acceptable and that they contain appropriate guidance for what to teach children of various ages:

You sick sick bastards.

EpicChaos · 30/04/2023 17:23

I would likely be banned if i wrote what i was thinking, so i shan't write it, instead, i shall just rely on you knowing me/my likely views sufficiently well enough by now, that you know what i'm thinking!

Sausagenbacon · 30/04/2023 17:23

Ask Harriet Harman.

Boiledbeetle · 30/04/2023 17:27

EpicChaos · 30/04/2023 17:23

I would likely be banned if i wrote what i was thinking, so i shan't write it, instead, i shall just rely on you knowing me/my likely views sufficiently well enough by now, that you know what i'm thinking!

Hearing you loud and clear like you are talking to me in my living room Epic!

Who knew our telepathy powers would get so good!

ResisterRex · 30/04/2023 17:32

I would add - this is the kind of analysis that should be done by DfE and EHRC. Both are charged with child rights and protection. Both MIA where this is concerned.

2fallsfromSSA · 30/04/2023 17:33

Agree @ResisterRex - it's utterly shameful that all the important work here us being done by grassroots groups of volunteers.

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alwaysandforevernow · 30/04/2023 17:40

It all links in with other liberal ideas about defunding the police, abolishing jails and all the rest of it.

The most important thing is for adults to be able to invididualistically pursue their own wants and desires without interference from the state.

Also why so many defence lawyers are so up their own arses as they see themselves as crusaders of liberalism.

Aishah231 · 30/04/2023 17:44

Why do these unelected, unaccountable global bodies get any say at all in what is taught in our schools!?