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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NZ Prime Minister said if schedule had allowed he would if joined counter protest

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Whaeanui · 28/03/2023 21:48

So yeah. The NZ PM would have happily supported the rainbow community, after all the violence he’s happy to support it. See video in this tweet. NZ PM won’t let women speak

https://mobile.twitter.com/rosey_nz/status/1640786474953232388?cxt=HHwWiMDS_eGmn8UtAAAA

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Whaeanui · 28/03/2023 21:48

Oh I hate there’s a spelling mistake 🤦🏾‍♀️.

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HagoftheNorth · 28/03/2023 21:59

So KJK said “Let women speak” and the NZ Prime Minister replied “No”
Keep repeating what this means - the elected premier of New Zealand refuses to hear the words of 51% of the people of his country. Democracy in action??!

nilsmousehammer · 28/03/2023 22:02

Ah. So he's coming out as a woman-beating thug?

Well it's not much of a shock really after this weekend.

Whaeanui · 28/03/2023 22:03

Yup. This was today I believe so after there was assault and she had to leave the country because she wasn’t safe. That’s the Prime Minister. I think Ardern would have cleared her schedule for it.

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nzborn · 28/03/2023 22:06

makes me want to rip up my passport

Whaeanui · 28/03/2023 22:10

I’m long since eligible to apply for a British passport… I’m going to do it this year now.

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nzborn · 28/03/2023 22:14

I've got both unfortunately I have no choice but to retire to NZ.

Rightsraptor · 28/03/2023 22:16

It wasn't a counter protest as Kellie & co weren't protesting. They were hoping merely to speak.

Whaeanui · 28/03/2023 22:16

Good point!

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1Week · 28/03/2023 22:20

That's unbelievable

anunlikelyseahorse · 28/03/2023 22:33

What a nob, he's just alienated half his voters 😂. As for the reporter standing next to him, her facial expression speaks a 1,000 word, I reckon if she had a kipper she would have happily smacked him round the chops with it.
Posy isn't even against the trans community, she just wants women to be safe, sheesh the ignorance and idiocy knows no bounds.

Faffertea · 28/03/2023 22:33

I hope the women of NZ hand him his misogynistic arse on a plate at the next election.

anon666 · 28/03/2023 22:45

It's no better here, we have Jacob Rees-Mogg fgs!!!

Honestly if I could move to NZ I would like a shot. It comes out better on so many levels.

They'll get it eventually these men. It's ridiculous.

namitynamechange · 28/03/2023 22:46

Apart from anything else, even if you accept that KJK and all the women who wanted to speak where nasty fascists who deserved what they got (I don't), is he unable to see how dangerous that situation was? A huge pressing mass of people pressing into a central point. Obviously Kellie was lucky to get out, but if any of the "beautiful rainbow people" had fallen they could easily have been trampled too. That's why they have police/security for large events/concerts etc. Idiots.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 28/03/2023 22:50

anon666 · 28/03/2023 22:45

It's no better here, we have Jacob Rees-Mogg fgs!!!

Honestly if I could move to NZ I would like a shot. It comes out better on so many levels.

They'll get it eventually these men. It's ridiculous.

This Rees Mogg?

‘When asked whether a woman can have a penis, the Brexit Opportunities Minister said “no”, before referencing the Bible.
Mr Rees-Mogg said: “God made man in his own image. He made man and he made woman.’

i can’t see how that makes him a trans believer.

RealityFan · 28/03/2023 22:54

At this point, Western politicians, especially left/liberal/progessive/green, are displaying both terminal signs of herd mentality, and purity spirals.
Even if I give some the benefit of the doubt, that they "genuinely" supported trans activist rights (demands, more like) at the start, in a haze of virtue signalling #BeKind, #NoBullying etc, now the herd has taken over where you're swept along with greater and greater fervour, to even marginally step out of line is hugely damaging to your reputation and critically, status within the group.
And which gaggle of humans trades on status more than others by far? Yes...politicians, especially those ascending the greasy pole.
Purity spirals then kick in, as to maintain profile within the herd and to maximise chances of improving status, the dissenters from the cause, especially within your group, must be put down and put down hard.
In politics it's so visible, because the virtue signalling is just a front for pure hypocrisy.
It used to be more for personal gain (cash for Q's, expenses scandals, ex-PM lobbying scandals) or to cover up personal failings (family values cabinet in 90s promoted by philandering Tory ministers), but now it's the huge chasm in believability on social justice issues like trans activist rights.
And on the left, this poison of herd and purity is reaching untold depths of sheer narcissistic bullying in nations like NZ, and also Aussie, Canada especially, and more and more, Scotland.
Posie was at the mercy of the purity herd, and now this Liberal MP currently is facing down this beast.
Of course, herds can also turn, and turn fast...
That's what we're all curious about, and desperately hoping will happen...

ArabellaScott · 28/03/2023 22:56

Fucking hell. Is he aware at least two men are being sought for assault?

JanesLittleGirl · 28/03/2023 22:57

anon666 · 28/03/2023 22:45

It's no better here, we have Jacob Rees-Mogg fgs!!!

Honestly if I could move to NZ I would like a shot. It comes out better on so many levels.

They'll get it eventually these men. It's ridiculous.

And where do you think jRM would have stood in Auckland?

Whaeanui · 28/03/2023 23:01

Is he aware at least two men are being sought for assault? are they? The police actually want to speak with them?

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anon666 · 28/03/2023 23:10

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 28/03/2023 22:50

This Rees Mogg?

‘When asked whether a woman can have a penis, the Brexit Opportunities Minister said “no”, before referencing the Bible.
Mr Rees-Mogg said: “God made man in his own image. He made man and he made woman.’

i can’t see how that makes him a trans believer.

No but he is a misogynist right wing loon straight out of the handmaid's tale. Surely we can't rely on this kind of dinosaur?

Our governments for the past 13 years have been run by alumni from the obnoxiously privileged Bullingdon club at Oxford. Surely compared to Jacinta Arden it's no contest?

Precipice · 28/03/2023 23:15

It's no better here, we have Jacob Rees-Mogg fgs!!!

Rees-Mogg is just an MP. Chris Hipkins is PM. And, in fairness, I can't think of an instance where Rees-Mogg said that he wished he could have been part of a hostile crowd attacking women or indeed any political opponents.

MerlinsLostMarbles · 28/03/2023 23:28

ArabellaScott · 28/03/2023 22:56

Fucking hell. Is he aware at least two men are being sought for assault?

2 arrests out of a crowd of over 2,000 statistically would imply the counter protestors were overall well behaved. 2,000 people is a lot.

There were some incidents on the other side as well- Marama Davidson was hit by a motorcycle in NZ, and in Australia an Aboriginal senator Lidia Thorpe was knocked to the ground. Both women were trans supporters.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 07:07

an Aboriginal senator Lidia Thorpe was knocked to the ground.

By police after trying to get to Posie.

I don’t think there’s been any arrests from NZ, but there was much more than two assaults. As evidenced by the videos attendees have shared. Don’t minimise it. Posie could have died if their attempts to drag her to the ground had been successful.

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Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 07:08

Marama Davidson was hit by a different event/protest, the Brian Tamaki. There’s no footage of what happened.

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Slothtoes · 29/03/2023 07:27

Holy Fuck. That’s despicable. ‘I wish I had been part of a violent and successful attempt to stop a peaceful, lawful woman-led free speech event about women’s issues, from happening at all’

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