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Oat milk is milk

105 replies

GCBear · 09/03/2023 15:03

Milk has lost all meaning
www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/03/plant-based-soy-oat-milk-fda-definition/673306/

"Differentiating plant-based milk and milk requires defining what milk actually is, but doing so is at odds with the acknowledgment that plant-based milk is milk."

(I think I might be spending too much time lurking on this board. 😂)

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Sillysheep · 09/03/2023 22:10

DigitalTranny · 09/03/2023 22:00

These are butter substitutes, not milk substitutes.

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Butter is not a butter substitute

Boiledbeetle · 09/03/2023 22:11

ReunitedThorns · 09/03/2023 17:26

Oat milk is oat milk. Oat milk is not milk.
Sea horses are sea horses. Sea horses are not horses.
Trans women are trans women. Trans women are not women.

Nods.

Yep.

pornyshroudofturin · 09/03/2023 22:15

MollochTheCorrupter · 09/03/2023 17:04

It's not. It's plant juice. It's plant juice I enjoy drinking, but you cannot use it to feed a newborn human baby unless you want to starve her or him. I breastfed, but if I hadn't been able to, i would have turned to cows' milk-based formula!

Well the reason for that is NO MILK including whole cow's milk is suitable for infants. Formula is specifically formulated for infants and yes, brand like Wy Soy are nutritionally sound for a growing infant and especially useful for allergy and intolerance.

Older children should not be having barista oat milk etc as the only milk made nutritionally for age 2-5 is Alpro Growing Up milk as specifically made with appropriate minerals and vitamins in mind.

Cow's milk is made to turn a baby cow into a Hiefer. Not ideal for humans.

Not so great if you can't/don't drink soya though

pollypokcet · 09/03/2023 22:17

SinnerBoy · 09/03/2023 19:52

MollochTheCorrupter · Today 19:43

Adult humans don't need calf milk.

Calves don't (or shouldn't) produce milk, it's adult cows, which do that.

Wow, so clever. Got her there🙄

Not a vegan myself but come on.

Alpiniste · 09/03/2023 22:22

PamperedEnLaPampa · 09/03/2023 15:06

Oak milk is lovely,and the dairy industry is cruel.

Yes Oat Milk out performs milk on every front… it’s even superior on the “being produced from a cow” criterion

MrGHardy · 09/03/2023 22:31

Wanderingowl · 09/03/2023 15:24

Oat milk usually has seed oils, like rapeseed oil in it. Seed oils are almost certainly utterly fucking dire for our health. Full fat dairy on the other hand is an amazing food, so,so good for humans with lactase tolerance,which is most ethnic northern Europeans. Buy from ethical farmers if you are worried about the dairy industry. I'm not particularly here tbh.

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The one I buy has sunflowerseed oil which as far as I know is not unhealthy, and it has 1.5g of fat per 100ml so the amount of oil in there is very moderate. Not something that is unhealthy.

Blueberrywitch · 09/03/2023 22:35

@MollochTheCorrupter amen! 🙌🏼🙌🏼

Grammarnut · 09/03/2023 22:50

Babyboomtastic · 09/03/2023 15:47

I get it.

It can be 'milk style' or 'milk substitute' but it's clearly not actual milk 🙄

I don't think they are allowed to call it milk anyway - none of the alternative products have the word 'milk' in their name on the packaging. Things like lactomilk can themselves a 'milk drink', but things like oat are just a 'drink'

I'm not sure I see it as a specially feminist issue though, but canning then milks does distort reality, and that is becoming an issue in feminism...

Not sure about that. Almond milk to be found in at least one local supermarket - it's yuk, a bit like drinking water with powder in it - so I do think these products are called milk. Milk - actual stuff from cows - is much better for you as it contains trace minerals and vitamins, calcium (which women especially need) and protein.

Grammarnut · 09/03/2023 22:51

MrGHardy · 09/03/2023 22:31

The one I buy has sunflowerseed oil which as far as I know is not unhealthy, and it has 1.5g of fat per 100ml so the amount of oil in there is very moderate. Not something that is unhealthy.

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We are really talking about women and transwomen. Oat milk is milk like transwomen are women. I.e. not.

OnlyTheWeedsGrow · 09/03/2023 23:57

We use oat, almond or coconut “mylk” (yep with the woke spelling).
Due to dairy and soy allergies.

We absolutely believe that oat mylk wants to look like milk, react like milk, taste like milk, be better than milk….. But it isn’t. It is an obvious substitute/alternative that some people insist is better than the real thing.

These delusions are occurring more and more in society - not just in the alternative mylk aisle of the supermarket.

I get your analogy, OP.
Seahorses are not horses.
Oat milk is not milk (oat mylk is not milk!).
An alternative or substitution is not the genuine article it seeks to replace.

TW are not W….

TheBiologyStupid · 10/03/2023 00:19

Off topic, but the OP reminded me of this:

Oat milk is milk
TheBiologyStupid · 10/03/2023 00:26

toastofthetown · 09/03/2023 15:52

Coconut and soy milks have has been around a long time without confusion. As has peanut butter.

Yes - peanuts aren't nuts and the product made from them isn't butter so a two-for-one.

holierthanthou73 · 10/03/2023 01:19

DigitalTranny · 09/03/2023 19:27

If any of you advocate not to drink milk, then I suppose you don’t consume cheese, yoghurt, butter and other dairy products either.

Obviously, we are well aware what diary means 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️FFS

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 02:47

TheBiologyStupid · 10/03/2023 00:26

Yes - peanuts aren't nuts and the product made from them isn't butter so a two-for-one.

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Soo...are they peas then? Please don't let them be peas. I have an aversion to healthy things.

toastofthetown · 10/03/2023 07:31

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 02:47

Soo...are they peas then? Please don't let them be peas. I have an aversion to healthy things.

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Peanuts are a legume, not a nut. Neither are cashews, almonds, pine nuts, and pistachios(and some others I’ve forgotten) botanical nuts.

Botanical vs culinary definitions are mixed up all around. Botanically a cucumber is a berry but a strawberry isn’t, though I hope in reality anyone offering berries and yogurt for breakfast won’t return with a bowl of raita.

SinnerBoy · 10/03/2023 08:08

ODFOx · Yesterday 21:46

It said oak milk, not oat. I'll get my coat.

Ah, darn it to Heck! I missed that....

SinnerBoy · 10/03/2023 08:09

pollypokcet · Yesterday 22:17

You obviously didn't read my next post, where I explained that I was kidding her...

OnGoldenPond · 10/03/2023 09:58

SinnerBoy · 09/03/2023 19:51

ODFOx · Today 19:21

I thought acorns were poisonous to humans ?

Acorns aren't oats.... Acorns will cause stomach pains in some people, but they can be processed into an edible form, by boiling them into mush. The Nazis used them to make fake coffee - ersatz coffee.

Think you misunderstood that comment, it was a joke about the accidental typo - the poster of the original comment wrote oak instead of oat.

TheBiologyStupid · 10/03/2023 12:12

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 02:47

Soo...are they peas then? Please don't let them be peas. I have an aversion to healthy things.

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Sorry, Boiled: "The peanut belongs to the botanical family Fabaceae (or Leguminosae), commonly known as the legume, bean, or pea family."

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 12:25

TheBiologyStupid · 10/03/2023 12:12

Sorry, Boiled: "The peanut belongs to the botanical family Fabaceae (or Leguminosae), commonly known as the legume, bean, or pea family."

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Throws self onto floor, wails, thrashes. Lightbulb in head...

Gets up, finishes eating peanut butter from the jar with a spoon happy in the knowledge that it now qualifies as one of my five a day.. And if i use a celery stick instead of a spoon then 2 of my five a day.

Always find the positive!

FebName · 10/03/2023 13:17

What the fuck!! I have stumbled onto the wrong board!!

MollochTheCorrupter · 10/03/2023 13:22

And if i use a celery stick instead of a spoon then 2 of my five a day.

Ugh. You animal. Celery belongs in the seventh circle of hell. I recommend a lotus biscuit or a bourbon instead.

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 15:02

FebName · 10/03/2023 13:17

What the fuck!! I have stumbled onto the wrong board!!

Depends.

What are you looking for?

We may be able to help... Or not

😁

SinnerBoy · 10/03/2023 15:23

OnGoldenPond · Today 09:58

Think you misunderstood that comment, it was a joke about the accidental typo - the poster of the original comment wrote oak instead of oat.

Yes, that's already been explained and I acknowledged it....

TheBigWangTheory · 10/03/2023 15:44

holierthanthou73 · 10/03/2023 01:19

Obviously, we are well aware what diary means 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️FFS

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are you sure?