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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

CPS consultation on guidance re sex by deception.

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Imnobody4 · 26/09/2022 12:06

www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/cps-seeks-publics-views-draft-deception-gender-legal-guidance

They don't seem to be using the terms sex and gender correctly which is par for the course.
A public consultation on updated legal guidance regarding deception as to gender in rape and serious sexual assault cases has been launched by the Crown Prosecution Service today.

The draft guidance reflects the case law on deception as to gender and whether it could affect consent and addresses the issue where a suspect’s gender identity differs from the sex they were assigned at birth

Our draft guidance has already benefited from the input of a number of interested groups, but we want the final product to be informed by as wide a range of views as possible. We are inviting comments to make sure that it strikes the right balance, so we can meet our obligations to be fair to both victims and suspects.

I think we can guess which groups they've consulted.

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FemaleAndLearning · 09/10/2022 23:40

Place marking. There are two threads on this that I found via the search.

FemaleAndLearning · 09/10/2022 23:49

Discussion her with Andrew Doyle

FemaleAndLearning · 09/10/2022 23:58

More links
www.womensgrid.org.uk/?p=20386

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11251801/amp/CPS-launches-consultation-suspects-gender-identity-affects-consent-rape-cases.html

www.endviolenceagainstwomen.org.uk/new-cps-guidance-will-block-rape-victims-from-therapy/

This seems to be a response to first stage of consultation but may be useful.
nottssvss.org.uk/cps-consultation-response/

Trying to get as many resources as possible in one place for when I start this.

Soulsal · 10/10/2022 01:00

Also a lot of people who are affected are straight men who find themselves having sex (or about to have sex) with men who claim to be women.

Imnobody4 · 10/10/2022 17:07

I think Dennis Kavanagh's point that it's likely to affect young inexperienced people most is spot on. A young lesbian groomed by an older transwoman or young teenage male lashing out when he finds a woman is actually a transwoman.

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DennisNoelKavanaghOffTwitter · 08/11/2022 10:25

The Gay Men's Network has responded to the CPS consultation on sex crimes involving deceptions as to biological sex. In it, we warn of Institutional ideological capture, victim blaming and inequality before the law

Read our full response here (first link in letters and responses)

We include in our response a draft email for anyone who wants to write in supporting our submission at pages 34-35. If you wish to adapt the law or arguments in the response please feel completely free to do so.

Details on how to respond to the consultation are available at the CPS website here - it closes 19th December 2022.

If you support our work advocating for the interests of homosexual males, please consider donating, our work requires infrastructure and with more donations we can make more of a difference.

Stay tuned for the GMN response to the NHS Interim Service Specs consultation and a public communication on the Equal Treatment Benchbook among our other projects.

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