CPS Consultation now open: Consultation on the Deception as to Gender section in the Rape and Serious Sexual Offences (RASSO) legal guidance

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Consultation here:

Thanks!

Not got very far into the text about the proposed revision, but already it is full of loaded terms like "assigned at birth" and states, "Note that under s9 GRA, where a GRC is issued, the person's gender becomes for all purposes the affirmed gender - so that, if the affirmed gender is the male gender, the individual is legally seen as male and, if it is the female gender, the individual is legally seen as female", without any acknowledgement of exceptions.

Ffs! How do we complain about the obvious ideological capture of those running the consultation?

Haven't finished reading it all yet but...the use of 'assigned at birth' is deceitful from the off. Sex at birth is observed.

Does it also appear to indicate possession of a GRC is unnecessary as the beliefs of the trans person must outway all other points?

So if an individual believes/feels that their gender does not match their birth (observed) sex then as long as they stay shtum..then it's all fine...no deception.

"For example, where a suspect falsely asserts that their gender identity is the same as their birth gender/assigned biological sex; or lies in response to questions about their gender history; or denies being a trans man or a trans or trans woman "

I have a couple of possibly slightly odd comments.

Firstly, above the button to submit the form, it has this:
Math question 4 + 6 =
Solve this simple math problem and enter the result. E.g. for 1+3, enter 4.

It looks like text that's actually put there by whoever does the CPS website, rather than it being a verification process provided by another service, though I haven't looked at the source. So why the US English? It's not that I have an issue with US English itself, but it does make me wonder about who's set this up, what checking processes it's been through, and cultural influences in general.

Secondly, I've only read the questions part and am not sure where the other stuff is that people are quoting from. Is this part — where a suspect falsely asserts that their gender identity is the same as their birth gender/assigned biological sex — suggesting criminalising people who have sex with someone without revealing their non-matching inner gender identity? Because that would criminalise a lot of married men who only later claim that they were always women… I can't see that being considered acceptable by trans activists.

"The CPS is conducting a public consultation on a proposed revision to its legal guidance on Rape and Serious Sexual Offences (RASSO), specifically Chapter 6: Consent, the section on Deception as to Gender."

www.cps.gov.uk/publication/deception-gender-proposed-revision-cps-legal-guidance-rape-and-serious-sexual-offences

Thanks! Haven't slept, brain slow 😑

Someone has put in a freedom of information request asking which groups have been consulted.
Am pretty sure we can predict which.

There was a thread on this yesterday too:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4641909-cps-consultation-on-guidance-re-sex-by-deception

Bumping.

If I consent to sex with a women, I don’t consent to sex with a penis. Ever.

Just place marking.