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PayPal shuts Free Speech Union account

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ResisterRex · 20/09/2022 21:50

Big Tech overreach in the Telegraph:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/20/paypal-shuts-accounts-free-speech-union/

"PayPal has shut down the account of the Free Speech Union, an organisation which defends gender-critical academics and opposes Drag queen story hours in schoolss_.
The US payments company shut down the accounts of the Free Speech Union, its founder Toby Young, and his opinion and news website the Daily Sceptic with no clear explanation last week, The Telegraph can reveal.
Mr Young said he suspected the action was driven by political motivess_ and was a “sinister form of cancel culture”.
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The Free Speech Union, founded by Mr Young two years ago, has recently called on the Government to ensure children aren't politically indoctrinated at school, citing the teaching of “radical gender theory” through Drag queen story hours in schools.
The organisation has helped to defend people who claim they have lost work for expressing opinions, for example Gillian Philip, the author who said her contract was terminated because she stood up for JK Rowling on Twitter amid a row over transgender rightss_. It has also challenged universities that have “no-platformed” gender-critical academics.
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Mr Young said: “Withdrawing financial services from dissidents and non-conformists and those who dare to defend them is the new frontline in the ongoing war against free speech.
“The Free Speech Union will be lobbying the Government to put new laws in to prevent companies like PayPal demonetising organisations and individuals because their employees disapprove of their views.”"

FSU tweet:

twitter.com/speechunion/status/1572323227040358401?s=46&t=Q_pYlcOXOni-UQ61agbaRw

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DuckDuckNo · 27/09/2022 20:01

And what about Colin Wright?

Andante57 · 27/09/2022 20:05

Great news

Imnobody4 · 27/09/2022 20:35

DuckDuckNo · 27/09/2022 20:01

And what about Colin Wright?

I think he's still banned, but he's in US. I expect PP will do what they can get away with.

ResisterRex · 28/09/2022 17:20

Another case, the reason for which is currently unknown and could be a mistake. Let's hope it is:

twitter.com/cforwomenuk/status/1575143302550233088?s=46&t=_wez9YJLrn599E7XFE1FfQ

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Imnobody4 · 28/09/2022 18:18

Ko-fi appears to be a UK registered company. Think they're a bit foolhardy to try this on Conservatives for Women.

Needmoresleep · 29/09/2022 13:28

Wow.

Yes founded by Simon Ellington who is based in Cambridge. Its supposed to be a "tip jar" top allow small donations to creators. I guess it is his right to decide that he does not want to offer the same service to women or Conservatives (or both) but its not clear on his website, and I suspect his investors don't know.

Bosky · 30/09/2022 02:08

Needmoresleep · 29/09/2022 13:28

Wow.

Yes founded by Simon Ellington who is based in Cambridge. Its supposed to be a "tip jar" top allow small donations to creators. I guess it is his right to decide that he does not want to offer the same service to women or Conservatives (or both) but its not clear on his website, and I suspect his investors don't know.

Or would barring people with the protected characteristic of sex and/or political belief constitute prohibited discrimination under the Equality Act 2010? In the same way as if he decided that he did not want to offer the same service to people of a particular race, religion or sexual orientation?

DrBlackbird · 30/09/2022 08:56

I thought Elon Musk originally founded Paypal?

Theil, an American Trump supporting libertarian billionaire and one of Facebook’s first investors, and Musk both jointly founded PayPal to make their billions.

With CIA funding, Thiel also founded Palantir, the big data analytics surveillance firm that has been awarded contracts by the uk govt to manage NHS data as well as uk border controls. When the govt paused one NHS contract, Palantir hired the NHSX AI director. Same person who had been advocating the contract. It’s a small world in the tech industry and many if not most focus on the tech more than the wider implications.

Palantir’s decision to hire former NHSX AI director Dr Indra Joshi has been described as “deeply worrying” by a leading privacy expert amid the controversial tech company competing for a £240 million NHS federated data platform (FDP) contract

Joshi, who left NHSX on 31 March 2022, oversaw the creation of the NHS AI Lab prior to being appointed to the UK government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) in May 2020. During her time at NHSX, she oversaw a number of significant tech deals as the UK’s healthcare system expanded its AI capabilities

Jim Killock, executive director of the Open Rights Group which campaigns for digital rights and freedoms, described Palantir’s “recruitment of this senior NHS executive” as “deeply worrying”

www.techcentral.ie/palantirs-poaching-of-former-nhsx-ai-chief-branded-scandalous/

twitter.com/barrymulholland/status/1517417565257097216?s=20&t=wnJEalvOt5llMpwtcrOztA

It is very likely far scarier than we can ever imagine…These tech firms are imbued with the personality of their founders. Far too many are deeply misogynist and using ‘woke’ as a cover for a desire to control. There is no hiding from surveillance firms. There is no such thing as ‘anonymous’ online data.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56183785
www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jun/21/palantir-concerns-over-data-firm-poised-to-be-operating-system-of-nhs
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-5513350
www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2021-02-24/revealed-data-giant-given-emergency-covid-contract-had-been-wooing-nhs-for-months
www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/08/14/agent-of-intelligence-how-a-deviant-philosopher-built-palantir-a-cia-funded-data-mining-juggernaut/
aboutintel.eu/palantir-eu-independence/
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/28/palantir-employee-cambridge-analytica

Needmoresleep · 09/10/2022 16:05

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11296589/PayPal-backtracks-policy-fined-users-misinformation-following-backlash.html

It looks as if there is quite an internal battle going on within PayPal.

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