Incels are now the spokesmen for trans people?

[QuitePissedOff]

I wonder, how do trans people feel, now that male incels have appointed themselves the spokesmen for trans people against women and girls?

For example:
www.spiked-online.com/2022/06/22/the-rise-of-the-black-pampers/

morningstaronline.co.uk/article/f/wpuk-fringe-report

Anyway, I'm off to bed.

It just looks like MRAs and incels running the whole "trans rights" campaign. Just asking trans people (the ones looking for a quiet life) are you OK on being represented as trans people by far-right incels and male rights activists?

People can say whatever they want about a group, I don't think it implies anyone in that group approves of them or what they say.

So they were all real transpeople, in Brighton today, shouting at women, masked, screaming, throwing smoke bombs,?

I find that hard to believe.

I find it more credible that most of the violent masked crowd were MRAs and incels. Using trans rights as a screen for their misogyny.

I just love that they’ve been dubbed black pampers 🤣🤣🤣 absolutely mortifying for the wee lads I’m sure lol

Who was that absolute fool who wrote his mum's phone number on his arm in a sharpie so that if he got arrested someone would phone her? And was photographed, so, naturally, some bloke off twitter sent his mum the photos and rang her to tell her that he was wearing a balaclava to tell omen to shut up.

I don't want to blame the mothers, but, good grief. How embarrassing if your son turns out to be that stupid. You'd have to hide all the sharpies in the house.

So they were all real transpeople, in Brighton today, shouting at women, masked, screaming, throwing smoke bombs,?

what's a 'real' trans person?

look, 'old school' trans women are massively sexist. they believe that clothes, and voice and mannerisms = woman. they basically think we're some exotic species

I'm not saying they'd be out throwing smoke bombs or anything, and I have no objection to them going about their business, but don't fool yourself that they want to abolish the gender based oppression of women.

what would they impersonate if that went away?

Once you start with "not a real trans woman", the whole house of cards comes tumbling down, because then you have to decide what IS a "real" trans woman!

Believe me, I've done all kinds of mental gymnastics in order to be kind and fair to everyone, and I was repeatedly coming up against contradictions and dilemmas. But for the past three years I've been entirely GC- sex is an immutable biological fact, "gender identity" is nothing more than personality. Personality varies wildly from person to person, and is not a feasible or safe criterion on which to base any laws. No mental gymnastics required, I'm standing on firm bedrock now, not constantly shifting sand.

Oh thats funny

reminds me of my pfb, i told him at his first party with alcohol that he should keep an eye on how much he was drinking….he kept track by writing it on his arm.

he is a lovely boy and not an utter twat so wouldn’t be a black pampers but yes, if he was I’d be absolutely mortified

I wonder what those "old school transsexuals" from back in the day who were members of the "Transex Liberation Group" would be doing if they were part of the current scene?

It's not hard to imagine that White Supremacist, ex-military, Hitler's posthumous confidante, Della Aleksander, would be part of the fascist ("antifa" 🙄) black bloc, energetically and expertly lobbing smoke bombs at women in Brighton.

Rachel Bowen (shy working class northern transsexual - having a female birth certificate is a "status symbol"), might leave off looking after the kids and polishing the brasses long enough to take the train down, handbag stuffed with balaclava and black rubber gloves?

Laura Pralet, once a dapper pipe-smoking civil servant but now, like Della and Rachel, taking delight in donning a pinny (Laura's so beloved by the posh hubby baggied soon after "the op") might be frantically calling pals in the College of Policing, screeching that local bobbies should be tasering KJK?

Jan Ford, Barbie of the bunch, perhaps decked in pink and baby blue, might be surrounded by a protective ring of female "trans allies" howling "TWAW" while Jan, trans-flag covid-masked, snaps the faces of the SFW crowd in close-up?

BBC Open Door programme 45 years ago on transsexuals - a real jaw dropper
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3327193-BBC-Open-Door-programme-45-years-ago-on-transsexuals-a-real-jaw-dropper

Open Door - Transex Liberation Group, BBC Two, Monday 4 June 1973
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06c83f4

For more "old school transsexuals" to time-travel to current year, see:
twitter.com/TwisterFilm/status/1480382480595230721

Archived: web.archive.org/web/20220908150431/twitter.com/TwisterFilm/status/1480382480595230721

There is a history of Incels transitioning. Perhaps it is their struggle and self-hate with AGP that first leads them to MRA and then eventually TRA.

That would be the transmaxxers, wouldn’t it?

we had one come and tell us all about themselves once in a thread. Very enlightening

Those black rubber gloves look a big sweaty.

Incels have quite a lot in common with trans people according to this article which was posted on another thread.

www.them.us/story/cis-trans-dating/amp

And the whole idea of the 'cotton ceiling' sounds like something dreamt up by an incel.

I would say that viewing women as not quite human is common to both Incels and men who identify as women

as is a sense of entitlement to women's time and attention

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria Oh God.....please tell me this actually happened. Where did you see this? I need a link!

Black pampers? Anyone else just think nappies?

Theres a picture on a thread today but ive completely forgotten which one…so I’m no help

There was a message in my WRN group today asking anyone who had tweeted that photo to delete it because it isn't really his mum's number.

Apparently, the little shit wrote someone else's number on his arm as a deliberate tactic to encourage harassment.

That's how the nickname started. I think it was after the TRA's dressed in black at Standing For Women in Manchester.

They were trying to look hard and pretend they were Antifa or the Black Panthers and someone said they were more like Black Pampers. The name just stuck.

Well that's my new term of the week. Never heard of transmaxxers before. Is there a link to this mentioned thread?

I think that one got deleted. There was then a huge amount of spam pasta etc to get it deleted.

look up Reddit and the term transmaxxing.

Oh wow, my very first post deleted. Not sure what I did wrong as I thought I was just agreeing with this. Evidently I need to be more careful with my choice of words!

Anyway, hey, I'm new. Thank you all for this space to think and speak (not completely) more freely than I can IRL and for providing me with a huge education since I started reading this board.