Owen Jones and the Patriarchy

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www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/05/lgbtq-womens-rights-abortion-unite

Is he telling women how to behave yet again whilst slagging of the patriarchy that he is firmly a part of?

Thought that was going to be the name of his new garage band. It suits.

Another predictable article on why pro surrogacy, pro sex work, women bashing sexist pro stereotypes are the most marginalised ever.

If he does start a garage band I'll assume his instrument of choice will be a small violin.

A lot of words to say very little, let alone something of substance tbh.

How can he write that there is no clash between women's rights and trans rights? The upcoming court case over the rights of female rape survivors to have female-only support will specifically address this. Is he dishonest or just thick?

LOJ thinks if he keeps repeating TWAW and “there is no clash of rights” it’ll somehow magically be true

the guardian must be desperate to keep employing him

He has a point that people who hate gender non-conforming people also tend to hate women.

Still doesn’t make men women.

Is he dishonest or just thick?

He is dishonest. And he thinks that everybody apart from him is thick and that if you tell them often enough that something is true/not true they will start to believe it.

A man has arrived to explain feminism, so hush up and listen.

😂😂😂

I kind of read the article, tbh he annoys me. This whole lgbtq+ and abortion mashup just put me in mind of the tactic of hitching your cart to a more popular and 'right' cause. As the TQ did with gay and black rights.

I've put this elsewhere on MN, if abortion rights are so important to LGBTQ+ why is Malta (7th on the bounce) the best European place for LGBTQ+? Malta, where abortion is completely banned.

He's eeking out the last few pennies from his grift before it all comes tumbling down.

We should turn up at the gig. Blue jeans. Black T-Shirts. Everyone with a teeny tiny violin. And just stand there miming playing the violin.

It is an interesting angle to take especially given Malta and the discrepancy that the Observer’s Rachel Cooke wrote about recently. If I could,I’d feel a letter going in. The Guardian’s letters page has been quite open to GC viewpoints recently

He is a total t==t
He hates anyone who does not agree with his insane opinions

And he need to get to a gym he is so weedy

The guardian is asking for responses to this article

He still has no understanding of any of the issues.

Also, he is a raging transphobe as he doesn't think transwomen are women, and he also didn't say that the Helens were talking about the genocide of trans people...which are the two biggest red transphobic flags of all.

They asked for responses to the FSS (pity me) article, I don't remember seeing any of them being published.

He just sticks to his abstract ideology and calls for unity, reads like an undergrad sociology essay - never even bothers to think how it effects actual women.

Is this the 'Owen Jones and the Terrifying Backsides' article?

it is wrongheaded to claim that trans rights and women’s rights are on a collision course.

Are we wrongheaded or are you scared of our womanly arses, Owen, make up your mind, eh

That is some spectacular forced teaming there, Owen, using US abortion issue to beat UK women over the head with. Well done, love. I'll give you a C+ for imaginative causation but points off for forgetting correlation is not necessarily connected at all.

Forced teaming is kind of the TRA schtick, isn't it.

I do wonder if he isn't actually rather thick.

He thinks trans and women's rights can't clash because he thinks TWAW is axiomatic. So its like saying women's rights clash with women's rights.

Cherry picking your facts much? Wouldn't expect any better level of analysis from thar rag mind.