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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How would you describe your gender identity?

69 replies

ChimChimeny · 30/06/2022 07:55

Work are requesting us to complete a diversity questionnaire and this is one question. The options are: Woman/man/non-binary/prefer not to say/other

I think I've read stuff on here before saying choose other and state "I don't have a gender identity" but would that skew the results? Or could I complain about the question?

I was a bit concerned it would be all about gender bollocks but there are also questions about sexual orientation and disabilities.

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achillestoes · 30/06/2022 07:57

I’d answer squarely like that: I don’t have one.

donquixotedelamancha · 30/06/2022 07:57

I got one of these. I complained that they weren't collecting data in line with the PCs from the EA2010.

Roystonv · 30/06/2022 08:00

Yep, other and I don't have one plus a bit extra if you feel you can or it is anonymous.

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 30/06/2022 08:00

Yup. You haven’t got one. I would tick Other, if there’s room to say “Woman, ie my sex, not a gender identity”.

BuanoKubiamVej · 30/06/2022 08:03

Other: I don't have one

And if they aren't separately asking for whether your sex is male or female, complain that they are failing to collect data on all the protected characteristics under the equalities act and are therefore falling short of their duties to monitor and assess equalities outcomes.

FemaleAndLearning · 30/06/2022 08:05

I always tick other then state I do not have a gender identity. Then I add you are conflating biological sex and gender in your question. Woman is an adult human female. Then I write to the survey and tell them I feel excluded as they have not given me the choice to say no I dont have one. It's like having a list of religions and picking other, whereas the census gave an option of no religion which is more accurate.

ClumpingBambooIsALie · 30/06/2022 08:07

They'll put you down as agender and joyfully +1 the "queer" tally, patting themselves on the back for having such an inclusive workplace.

bellinisurge · 30/06/2022 08:09

Ask them why they are collecting this data. Seems excessive and contrary to Data Protection law because gender identity is not a protected characteristic.
Although in reality I would roll my eyes and Prefer Not To Say

balalake · 30/06/2022 08:10

Prefer not to say is the sensible response, the more people that do that, the more likely the question won't be asked for much longer.

Assuming 'I don't have one' is not an option.

The other response would be not to reply, or only reply on other questions.

bellinisurge · 30/06/2022 08:10

To be fair, these things are shit on many levels. They don't record Jewish as an ethnicity and they should

ChimChimeny · 30/06/2022 08:23

ClumpingBambooIsALie · 30/06/2022 08:07

They'll put you down as agender and joyfully +1 the "queer" tally, patting themselves on the back for having such an inclusive workplace.

That's my concern! So I selected prefer not to say & have sent an email amalgamating a couple of posts on here re: equalities act, conflating sex & gender, why are they doing it.

Thanks all 👍🏻

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Conflictedunicorn · 30/06/2022 08:24

I just replied with ‘please explain what a gender identity is’. Never got any pushback

KittenKong · 30/06/2022 08:26

achillestoes · 30/06/2022 07:57

I’d answer squarely like that: I don’t have one.

This is seriously a ‘what stereotype do you like to think of yourself as’ question?

i like to imagine myself as the emporess dowager cixi.

KittenKong · 30/06/2022 08:31

And another thing. All this gender collection. Are they just ignoring sex? I was remembering an old colleague of mine who was fired after disappearing from work one lunchtime and turning up three days later in the same clothes. This was the city on the 90s so, well it had been seen before.

SHE was fired (the men never were unless they were found to be downloading nasty porn). Women on maternity sometimes found themselves redundant. Mums needing to leave on time to collect kids from daycare were called uncommitted and sniped at.

i had gay and bi colleagues. No one have a shiney about their sexuality.

what??

Dancingwithhyenas · 30/06/2022 08:35

I don’t have a gender identity, which I think is different from I don’t know. If there wasn’t that box I would ask annoymously for that to be added as an option.

ChimChimeny · 30/06/2022 08:40

@KittenKong

Are they just ignoring sex

Yup

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KittenKong · 30/06/2022 08:45

Well that’s Pile of useless poo.

ChimChimeny · 30/06/2022 08:47

KittenKong · 30/06/2022 08:45

Well that’s Pile of useless poo.

Yup 💩🤣

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AFChange · 30/06/2022 08:51

My friend was asking about my pay banding (NHS) as she didn't understand the nuances (and that's a whole other thread).
I told her we were on Agenda for Change and she said "blimey, I didn't realise the movement had got that powerful". I did have to spell it out.....

Braggiography · 30/06/2022 09:01

'I don't have one and I don't subscribe to 'gender' as an ideology. '

Holly60 · 30/06/2022 09:31

Yeah I'd think if you say you don't have one, they will list you as agender. I would just put woman, as that is what you are.

Braggiography · 30/06/2022 09:38

If the majority of people are listed as 'agender' this daft ideology will soon reveal itself as unworkable.

'which regressive simplistic stereotypes do you prefer to agree with?'

If you are obese, do you identify as a 'cheerful'; if you identify as Scottish are you a) a miser b) drunk or c) ginger? If you are a woman are you a) slutty, b) a bimbo or c) saintly/virginal?

Do you identify more as a GI Joe or a Barbie?

Are you Aquarian or do you identify more as Sagittarius?

Midlifemusings · 30/06/2022 09:39

I don't feel as though I have one either. However I don't like choosing other as that feels as though I do have a gender identity - it is just an out there one that hasn't made the list.

ChagSameachDoreen · 30/06/2022 09:41

bellinisurge · 30/06/2022 08:10

To be fair, these things are shit on many levels. They don't record Jewish as an ethnicity and they should

My DH has a major bee in his bonnet about this. He ticks "mixed - other" and then writes in Ashkenazi/Sephardi.

SingingSands · 30/06/2022 09:51

Do you HAVE to complete the survey? I've started deleting all survey requests. I was chased yesterday and replied "no thank you" and didn't hear back. I was slightly concerned though because the chasing email was addressed to me directly (FIRST NAME/SURNAME) then went on to say how important it was to their data blah blah bad and that all responses are anonymous. Well if it's anonymous then how did they know I hadn't responded? Confused