Kicked out of Asexual Lesbians group for supporting JKR

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As an asexual lesbian woman (not sexually attracted to anyone but romantically attracted to women), I joined the Asexual Lesbians London Meetup group:
www.meetup.com/Asexual-Lesbians-London/

I wanted to privately connect with fellow gender-critical asexual women, so I posted in the group a few days ago asking if anyone else also supported JKR and female sex-based rights, while respecting all gender identities of course. I did not say anything to deny the existence of transwomen. I clearly said I did NOT want to start a public debate on the issue, but that I only wanted to privately connect with people who share my views and support JKR, and people could DM me.

Today I saw that I have been removed from the group (no explanation was sent to me), and the admin has posted a message in the group discussion page to the effect "Sorry, didn't see the 'terfy' post earlier. We welcome all transwomen and non-binary women!"

If this is not discrimination and silencing women based on personal beliefs, I don't know what is. How can group admins go on silencing minority voices like this? I had joined this group to connect with fellow asexual lesbians, and I am being denied that opportunity just because of my personal views. So it comes to this: To be allowed into a group based on your sexual/romantic orientation, you MUST necessarily subscribe to the gender ideology that most members believe in. What's next -- you must like the same ice cream flavour as most members of the group?

If there are any asexual (not necessarily lesbian) people here on MN who are also gender critical, please let me know! It would be a great comfort to know that not all asexual people have been captured by gender madness. I would like to join asexual groups but feel highly uncomfortable given their tyrannical insistence on gender ideology.

Sounds like you’re better off out of it, you’re the wrong kind of lesbian for them 🙄

But how can I find the right kind of asexual lesbian if I'm not even allowed to make a polite post asking for them to contact me?

Set up your own group, is my advice. Make it clear that you are looking for sisters, not cis-ters...you might find some decent friends!

Most of the people in that group will have a penis. It has the word "lesbian" in it so will have been targeted. Rather naive to mention JKR at all really!
If you want to meet like minded women it needs to be under the radar. Sad but true.

Wouldn't the TRAs immediately shut down such a group by reporting it to Facebook, etc. as a "hate group"?

Just create your own group, and no it won’t be shut down you don’t know the amount of times I report racist, xenophobic comments and FB takes no action, I even reported a video a man I know took of a woman showering (clearly she wasn’t aware he was filming) and FB chose to keep it. So you are good to go!

What's a "non-binary woman"? Non-binary means neither male nor female.

What's a "non-binary woman"? Non-binary means neither male nor female.

Don't be so gatekeepey and 2020. Non-binary women are valid!

It's whatever they say it is. 🙄
One member of that group had posted earlier saying "Not all lesbians are women; I'm a non-binary lesbian".
So apparently "lesbian" has nothing to do with women being attracted to women these days, but rather anyone being attracted to women? Or rather, anyone being attracted to anyone?

Sympathy, OP, but realistically if you post something like that in a group like that, it’s the most likely response, isn’t it? It’s a shame they’re so extreme.

Sorry OP. Females are no longer allowed to congregate or converse without being supervised and monitored by males.

I'm also wondering what a 'non binary woman' could be. If they use the verboten word 'woman' - I do hope I'm not going to be struck down with a plague of locusts for saying the disgusting word out loud - then surely they must believe in the binary of female/male?

I have reported the group to Meetup for hate speech ('terfy') and removing me based on my personal beliefs. Meetup's rules say:

Hate speech, supremacy, or behavior that incites hate or violence against individuals or groups of people based on who they are, or what their beliefs are, is prohibited.

If anyone has a Meetup account and could also report this group www.meetup.com/Asexual-Lesbians-London - I would really appreciate it! Thanks for your solidarity and for supporting free speech.

I'm also wondering what a 'non binary woman' could be.

It's someone who identifies as both "non-binary" and as a "woman".

Identity words don't have to actually mean anything, they're just arbitrary labels. So any combination is possible.

Sure a few people might look a bit oddly at a new combo at first, but it's easy to shame them into not being such exclusionary bigots, especially if you can rope a few others into calling themselves the same thing.

Once three people have done it somewhere on the Internet, I think it becomes "valid".

So apparently "lesbian" has nothing to do with women being attracted to women these days, but rather anyone being attracted to women?

I believe one of the "definitions" I've seen is "non-men attracted to non-men", in which case that could apply to non-binaries. Not, of course, that I'm suggesting that a definition is necessary, as per above. All uses of any word are valid.

I clicked on the link and the page no longer exists.

It's a glitch -- happened to me too. Just refresh the page or click the banner at the top again.

Here's the link again:
www.meetup.com/Asexual-Lesbians-London/

The one above isn't working properly. Please report the group for hate speech and behaviour if you can. Thanks!

So could a non binary non non non man be a woman?

Woke will eat itself...

I am in a local womens meet-up group run through Facebook, and the sisters not cis-ters is in their group description. Tbh, it was why I signed up.

I'm afraid 'sisters not cis-ters' is actually a TRA battle cry! See this prominent TRA and misogynist's article here: www.alokvmenon.com/blog/2018/9/3/sisters-not-cisters

They're basically saying sisterhood shouldn't include only ciswomen but transwomen also. Have you spoken with other gender-critical women in your local group?

Dont quite understsand. But it would seem this is not the group for you. In any case what does it matter what JKR thinks. She isn't in the groups is she.

Count it an honour.

😂

To be honest, these days I'd assume anybody who is into any kind of asexual activism is also a TRA.

That's exactly what hurts me so much, as a gender-critical asexual woman myself! All asexual groups/forums seem to be filled with 'they/them's who hate 'terfs' with a passion, and I feel so scared and out of place.
Asexuals with a modicum of common sense, respect for science and women's rights...WHERE ARE YOU????