Trans rights are harming women - report

Mumoftwoinprimary · 30/05/2022 07:52

Love the John Lennon comment!

Hoardasurass · 30/05/2022 08:07

Me too

FOJN · 30/05/2022 08:38

I'm wearing my angry head today and it just makes me fucking furious that state funded institutions can make policy which ignores the law and harms women and we need a fucking report before we decide something must be done.

How about if we tell the people ignoring the law there will be consequences and if complying with the law is unacceptable to them they can have a P45 and fuck the fuck off.

LorenzoVonMatterhorn · 30/05/2022 08:44

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KittenKong · 30/05/2022 08:52

It’s not like no one has been saying this for years!!!!!

MagnoliaTaint · 30/05/2022 09:17

NO SHIT.

TotalRhubarb · 30/05/2022 09:19

it just makes me fucking furious that state funded institutions can make policy which ignores the law and harms women and we need a fucking report before we decide something must be done.

Absolutely says it all, doesn’t it.

MagnoliaTaint · 30/05/2022 09:20

Here's the report: policyexchange.org.uk/publication/transgenderism-and-policy-capture-in-the-criminal-justice-system/

MrsOvertonsWindow · 30/05/2022 09:21

The Times are reporting on this as well. Share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9ff5aaf6-df87-11ec-8bdd-c253e043f5f0?shareToken=374007ac7a37102042f60d49cc07dc36

AlisonDonut · 30/05/2022 09:30

So it has risen to 60% of males who claim they are trans being in prison for sex related crimes 87/146=59.6%

It was 50%.

Crikey.

MagnoliaTaint · 30/05/2022 09:38

Can't see why a link to the study was removed.

This is the website, it's the first news item: policyexchange.org.uk/

MagnoliaTaint · 30/05/2022 09:43

Hm. Must be auto-hidden.

MagnoliaTaint · 30/05/2022 09:45

AlisonDonut · 30/05/2022 09:30

So it has risen to 60% of males who claim they are trans being in prison for sex related crimes 87/146=59.6%

It was 50%.

Crikey.

That's as expected, isn't it? The more it's seen as an option, the more will choose to ID into women's prisons.

AlisonDonut · 30/05/2022 11:03

MagnoliaTaint · 30/05/2022 09:45

That's as expected, isn't it? The more it's seen as an option, the more will choose to ID into women's prisons.

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Oh I know, my issue is that nobody in charge seems to have noticed!

Artichokeleaves · 30/05/2022 12:55

I hear the frustration. We've been pointing this out for bloody years, writing letters, sharing articles, raising awareness, screaming into the void of flat out gaslighting and ignoring 'no there's no conflict with women's rights, it's all in your head, you're just prejudiced'.

So yes, it's bloody galling that finally, finally it's starting to be recognised that "ooh look, wee bit of a huge great fucking problem for women here that possibly we should have picked up on about eight fucking years ago if we had half a braincell between the lot of us, and weren't so misogynist we dismiss anything female as unimportant on sight and can't hear them even when they're waving evidence at us and resorting to putting bloody stickers up trying to be heard".

But I suppose at least finally it's sinking in.

Abitofalark · 30/05/2022 13:05

Thread here about the Policy Exchange report:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4559164-telegraph-policy-exchange-report-on-gender-identity-over-sex

nepeta · 30/05/2022 17:13

Artichokeleaves · 30/05/2022 12:55

I hear the frustration. We've been pointing this out for bloody years, writing letters, sharing articles, raising awareness, screaming into the void of flat out gaslighting and ignoring 'no there's no conflict with women's rights, it's all in your head, you're just prejudiced'.

So yes, it's bloody galling that finally, finally it's starting to be recognised that "ooh look, wee bit of a huge great fucking problem for women here that possibly we should have picked up on about eight fucking years ago if we had half a braincell between the lot of us, and weren't so misogynist we dismiss anything female as unimportant on sight and can't hear them even when they're waving evidence at us and resorting to putting bloody stickers up trying to be heard".

But I suppose at least finally it's sinking in.

If women on Mumnsnet hadn't done that, hadn't taken the risks, spent their gardening resources and given up their private relaxation time and sacrificed even more at work and elsewhere and then received horrible threats and attempts at cancellations, this would not yet be happening.

So accept my praise and gratitude you brave and stunning women (!). I was hoeing my row elsewhere for quite a long time, but I am in awe of the level of courage, intelligence, and warmth I see here.

PissedOffAmericanWoman · 16/11/2022 23:19

Imagine that!

FemaleAndLearning · 16/11/2022 23:45

I've not finished this yet but the first 10 mins or so are very enlightening. The playbook said to go for prisons first, if we. An get men in women's prisons we can get them in everywhere.
I felt bad and that Martin Luther King comes to mind...First they came..

Who cares about women prisoners they are in prison it is their fault, but no they were the fodder, the springboard. I felt really guilty until I realised that most of us would never knew about. Men have been in women's prisons since the 1980s! Talk about the long game!

Here is link, it may be at my book mark so you will gave to start it from beginning.

Ramblingnamechanger · 17/11/2022 00:07

Will anyone in the justice system take notice? How many more rapes will it take ? How much misallocation of resources? how many more males getting special treatment? We should be out on the streets every day until this whole awful mess is shut down

WallaceinAnderland · 17/11/2022 00:18

This thread is 6 months old

NewBootsAndRanty · 17/11/2022 00:26

FemaleAndLearning · 16/11/2022 23:45

I've not finished this yet but the first 10 mins or so are very enlightening. The playbook said to go for prisons first, if we. An get men in women's prisons we can get them in everywhere.
I felt bad and that Martin Luther King comes to mind...First they came..

Who cares about women prisoners they are in prison it is their fault, but no they were the fodder, the springboard. I felt really guilty until I realised that most of us would never knew about. Men have been in women's prisons since the 1980s! Talk about the long game!

Here is link, it may be at my book mark so you will gave to start it from beginning.

Did you mean Martin Niemöller?

FemaleAndLearning · 17/11/2022 22:30

Yes that Martin!

Melroses · 17/11/2022 23:23

Thanks I hadn't see that - interesting to see how it works in other countries.