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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Telegraph: Policy Exchange report on gender identity over sex

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Abitofalark · 30/05/2022 02:20

"Police are calling transgender rape suspects by their ‘preferred pronoun’, report finds
Self-declaration of 'gender identity' rather than biological sex has been adopted by all key criminal justice institutions, think tank says"

Extract:
"Women are being failed by the criminal justice system because it favours transgender rights, says a new report, as it warned those who speak out against it face “McCarthyite” backlash.

The study by the think tank Policy Exchange found self-declaration of “gender identity” rather than biological sex has been adopted as a policy by all the key criminal justice institutions, despite the fact that this was not aligned with the law.

It said this included circumstances in which suspects may be referred to by the police and courts with their preferred pronoun.

This meant that a rape victim could find their alleged rapist being referred to as “she” even though they might have suffered a penetrative assault.

The police approach meant that detained female suspects could be searched by officers who were biologically male but self-declared themselves as women." ...

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/05/29/police-calling-transgender-rape-suspects-preferred-pronoun-report/

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 30/05/2022 06:48

self-declaration of “gender identity” rather than biological sex has been adopted as a policy by all the key criminal justice institutions, despite the fact that this was not aligned with the law.

Says it all really...

tabbycatstripy · 30/05/2022 06:59

The police have swallowed it hook line and sinker, haven’t they? I just hope the judiciary still has the independence to reach fair conclusions in light of the evidence. The Bailey case rests on whether it’s okay to say it’s not acceptable to ‘persuade’ lesbians that they want sex with males, or whether someone saying that should be considered ‘beyond the pale’. Imagine typing that ten years ago.

Hoardasurass · 30/05/2022 07:14

I wonder if this is the 1st step towards removing the judges handbook and removing all of the stonewall policy from the criminal justice system

ResisterRex · 30/05/2022 07:19

Hoardasurass · 30/05/2022 07:14

I wonder if this is the 1st step towards removing the judges handbook and removing all of the stonewall policy from the criminal justice system

I thought that. Some of the Bench Book changed after one of their reports.

This one doesn't seem to have been covered by the Graun or the BBC, only DM, Times and Telegraph. But they would presumably all have had a copy.

Peregrina · 30/05/2022 08:24

We should not be surprised that the Guardian hasn't covered it - they have completely fallen for the TWAW line.

334bu · 30/05/2022 08:34

Hadn't thought about police questioning rape victim and using female pronouns for attacker. How can anybody not see this as further abuse of the victim?

RoyalCorgi · 30/05/2022 08:45

The Sun also briefly covers the report at the end of a story about the Stella Creasy/Annaliese Dodds disagreement about whether women can have a penis. (Worth reading for the phrase "todger bodgers".)

www.thesun.co.uk/news/18722803/labour-war-woman-born-with-penis-debate/

Abitofalark · 30/05/2022 11:06

Synopsis by author Maureen O'Hara on Policy Exchange website:

"Transgenderism and policy capture in the criminal justice system

May 30, 2022

Why criminal justice policy needs to prioritise sex over ‘gender identity’

This report addresses the impact of policies and practices within the criminal justice system in England and Wales which classify and treat suspects, defendants in criminal trials, and convicted offenders on the basis of their ‘gender identity’ rather than their biological sex. In recent years, self-declaration of ‘gender identity’ has been adopted as policy by all of the key criminal justice institutions, despite the fact that this is not aligned with the law. This change appears to have come about largely as the result of policy capture, as it is a widely contested belief and has been adopted without public scrutiny. Current criminal justice policy prioritises the wishes and feelings of those who identify as transgender over the rights of others, and particularly over the sex-based rights of women, such as rights to single-sex facilities. This publication examines the detrimental effects of this approach and makes recommendations about the development of policies which are based on acknowledgment of the significance of biological sex in the field of criminal justice."

policyexchange.org.uk/publication/transgenderism-and-policy-capture-in-the-criminal-justice-system/

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OnlyLosersTakeTheBus · 30/05/2022 11:15

334bu · 30/05/2022 08:34

Hadn't thought about police questioning rape victim and using female pronouns for attacker. How can anybody not see this as further abuse of the victim?

And also - victim gives a truthful statement but is forced to lie in it, by using female pronouns - what weight will be given to the rest of the statement which they have declared to be true?

Imnobody4 · 30/05/2022 11:25

Here's a link to the report
policyexchange.org.uk/publication/transgenderism-and-policy-capture-in-the-criminal-justice-system/

Perhaps worth sending to MPs.

Imnobody4 · 30/05/2022 11:27

What's going on with hiding messages? Is no one working or have I been marked as suspicious?

ResisterRex · 30/05/2022 11:30

Same happened to me. No idea why

Abitofalark · 30/05/2022 11:42

No sooner had I posted a synopsis from the Policy Exchange website than up popped that blocking message. Spooky.

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Abitofalark · 30/05/2022 11:44

I was about to post a link to the report as well but thought I'd better not. I feel marked.

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dinosauriam · 30/05/2022 13:58

Waiting to see if the Telegraph deletes the comments like they did on the Creasy article. 99.9% of the comments are horrified and asking how has this happened. I hope the Creasy article comments were only deleted because she had agreed it with them as a sort of 'puff piece'.

Abitofalark · 30/05/2022 15:54

The comments are interesting and pretty much one way.
One suggested a woman sue the manager of a government department responsible for ignoring the law, as that would put a stop to all this. I don't suppose he was aware a woman who'd suffered in prison applied for a judicial review of the prison policy and got nowhere.

Another posted: "Only men can carry out rape so all those crimes should be recorded as perpetrated by men and not transwomen."

Not being in the know, it wouldn't occur to him that they are recorded as women. After all, they are called transwomen, so a reasonable assumption for him to make.

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TheBiologyStupid · 30/05/2022 16:43

The Policy Exchange report is excellent and its recommendations should be implemented in full immediately. Because the current nonsensical behaviour goes beyond the law no legislation would be required to achieve 99% of it right now. The GRA needs sorting out in terms of what the report calls "inbuilt tensions" and to clarify, if necessary, the language that can be used in court in respect of holders of GRCs.

TheBiologyStupid · 30/05/2022 19:40

On the subject of police officers who self-identity as being of the same sex as a suspect, but aren't biologically, the Policy Exchange report notes: "Where a person is not authorised to conduct a search on a suspect under the provisions of PACE [Police and Criminal Evidence act] does so, this amounts to assault or battery in law. Where the search is a strip search or intimate search, it can amount to a sexual assault. The NPCC [National Police Chiefs' Council] guidance amounts to the police instituting a practice that would normally constitute sexual assault. Arguably, it could constitute inhuman or degrading treatment contrary to Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights as well as a violation of detainees' right for respect for their private life under Article 8." [page 24] - WTAF!

MaudeYoung · 30/05/2022 21:21

Maureen O'Hara has done such a thorough job here; collated all the relevant evidence and analysed it all in direct relation to current law in the UK.

This is exactly what one expects from an expert in any field.

Those who disagree will have to argue to a very high level to disprove [refute!] anything that O'Hara has said here.

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