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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lorna Slater called out in the Telegraph

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tabbycatstripy · 10/04/2022 18:29

After making comments that likened GC feminists to racists and anti-semites, the Scottish Gov was asked which particular groups she meant, and whether she had any evidence:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/04/10/grossly-offensive-scottish-minister-compares-womens-rights-activists/

They didn’t comment.

She also repeated the argument that UK GC groups are funded by right-wing, American, mysterious and unidentifiable people.

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tabbycatstripy · 10/04/2022 18:31

Wait, they did comment: “The aim of this government is to ensure that trans people in Scotland enjoy equality and feel safe and accepted for who they are.

“We appreciate the range of strongly held views on the Gender Recognition Act and have always been keen to seek consensus where possible and to work to support respectful debate.

“We are committed to making changes to the 2004 Gender Recognition Act to improve and simplify the process for a trans person to gain legal recognition.”

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DomesticatedZombie · 10/04/2022 18:34

The aim of this government is to ensure that trans people in Scotland enjoy equality and feel safe and accepted for who they are.

What, the sole aim? Do they not have any other people/issues they may like to consider, at all?

tabbycatstripy · 10/04/2022 18:37

I thought the aim of a government was meant to be the safety and well-being of all the people, but maybe I’m old-fashioned and what we really need are Slater’s lessons from the Democratic Republic of Justin Trudeau.

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DomesticatedZombie · 10/04/2022 18:38

'“Voters are sick to death of attack politics, negative politics, seeing party leaders shout abuse in the chamber. The Greens in opposition had a track record for being constructive'

Is she serious?

tabbycatstripy · 10/04/2022 18:40

She’s seriously something.

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334bu · 10/04/2022 18:52

Something? Aye she definitely is.

Chersfrozenface · 10/04/2022 19:06

What was that question once very popular on MN? As I recall, it involved an adhesive substance.

DomesticatedZombie · 10/04/2022 19:31

Here's the section from that Yahoo aritcle:

'Trans rights

ALONGSIDE the environment, Greens have championed trans rights. Slater sees a difference between the Scottish Government and SNP on the issue. “The Scottish Government is in the right place, absolutely. It’s openly supportive of trans rights,” she says. The Gender Reform Act will pass, she promises. Referring to the backlash against the trans community, Slater adds: “It’s been absolutely heartbreaking. Awful. Hideous.” Greens are standing some trans candidates for local election and Slater says she’s “genuinely afraid for their safety”, adding: “These gentle, hardworking women are being portrayed as if they’re inherently dangerous. It couldn’t be further from the truth.”

Today’s atmosphere, she says, is reminiscent of 1990s America and “ridiculous bathroom laws”. She says: “Just let people get on with their lives. My understanding is that there’s money in this from certain right-wing American groups that’s been flooding into organisations in the UK.”

False balance is being introduced, Slater believes, adding that the BBC “only recently stopped putting on climate deniers because they required balance. We wouldn’t put balance on the question of racism or anti-Semitism, but we allow this fictional notion of balance when it comes to anti-trans [views]. The whole thing is disgusting.”

Polls show a large majority of the public, and women specifically, support trans rights. Slater doesn’t care what “Daily Mail” readers think.'

DomesticatedZombie · 10/04/2022 19:32

Also 'She is “very excited” about beavers returning to the wild.'

People with beavers say no, Lorna.

tabbycatstripy · 10/04/2022 19:36

‘Greens are standing some trans candidates for local election and Slater says she’s “genuinely afraid for their safety”, adding: “These gentle, hardworking women are being portrayed as if they’re inherently dangerous. It couldn’t be further from the truth.”’

I’m sure it’s not. Why are all their trans candidates transwomen, though?

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tabbycatstripy · 10/04/2022 19:37

She really doesn’t want a bunch of wild beavers.

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PoshPyjamas · 10/04/2022 19:39

People with beavers say no, Lorna

Grin
DomesticatedZombie · 10/04/2022 19:44

I mean, we already have wild beavers in several sites in Scotland, so I don't know why she thinks this is a new thing.

5zeds · 10/04/2022 19:45

She really doesn’t want a bunch of wild beavers. ShockGrin

DomesticatedZombie · 10/04/2022 19:46

herds of beavers, ROAMING across the plains ...

tabbycatstripy · 10/04/2022 19:46

I’ve seen some very wild beavers at sites including outside the Scottish Parliament. And I’ve seen dinosaurs.

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Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 10/04/2022 19:48

“Gentle hard working women” why do TWAW politicians always talk about TW like they’re some startled anxious woodland creature? They’re always gentle, kind, shy, quiet - obviously so much better at womaning than the boring old cunty type of women who get sweary & angry 🙄

DomesticatedZombie · 10/04/2022 19:48

the beavers will be dancing in the streets of Cumbernauld tonight.

Lorna Slater called out in the Telegraph
DomesticatedZombie · 10/04/2022 19:50

@Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky

“Gentle hard working women” why do TWAW politicians always talk about TW like they’re some startled anxious woodland creature? They’re always gentle, kind, shy, quiet - obviously so much better at womaning than the boring old cunty type of women who get sweary & angry 🙄
I honestly heard that phrase in the voice of David Attenborough.
tabbycatstripy · 10/04/2022 19:50

‘They’re always gentle, kind, shy, quiet - obviously so much better at womaning than the boring old cunty type of women who get sweary & angry’

I’m definitely the boring type.

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littlbrowndog · 10/04/2022 19:59

What a cheeky wee tube she is. Never even got voted in got in on list

Earns 98 grand as biodiversities minister

She can fuck right off.

What about to ordinary women in Scotland. Are we not gentle and hardworking

She is so elitist. Knows nowt about the day to day life from her ivory tower telling us women what to do and what to say and think

She is a priggish virtuous waste of our money.

And where my far right money. Am waiting

Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 10/04/2022 20:02

I thought it was just me Domesticated Grin

littlbrowndog · 10/04/2022 20:05

This from slater to me

Good afternoon,

Thank you for writing to me about your concerns.

Myself, and the Scottish Green Party, wholeheartedly support the rights of trans people including that of self-identification. Trans rights and women’s rights are not in conflict, as all humans have the same human rights. The human rights of minority groups should not be open to debate and interpretation, they should be accepted.

The Scottish Greens stand firmly for inclusive, intersectional feminism which recognises the intersectional nature of power which creates additional barriers for women facing multiple discriminations. You can read more about this here: greens.scot/womens-pledge.

In the recent cooperation agreement between the Scottish Greens and the Scottish Government we agreed to reform the Gender Recognition act to establish a more straightforward system for obtaining legal gender recognition for trans people. I believe that trans people should not have to go through a degrading, traumatic and intrusive process to be legally recognised in their gender.

I hope that you agree that we must do more to improve the lives of the trans community who have been the target of a hate campaign for the past few years.

Regards,

Lorna Slater MSP

justicewomen · 10/04/2022 20:14

"Trans rights and women’s rights are not in conflict, as all humans have the same human rights. The human rights of minority groups should not be open to debate and interpretation, they should be accepted."

Says a Scottish Minister who is legally illiterate. Its just embarrassing poor the lack of knowledge as to how human and equality rights work in practice

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