MON THE BARONESS JENKIN!!!

[ArabellaScott]

Yas!

hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2021-12-10/debates/E1700B22-1B3B-431C-BD6A-ACB5EA258188/FreedomOfSpeech

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hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2021-12-10/debates/E1700B22-1B3B-431C-BD6A-ACB5EA258188/FreedomOfSpeech#contribution-A3B3EFC2-865A-40DC-87B7-CC28CE96D1CA

I really like the term "biological realist" as an alternative to "gender critical" - it shifts the focus to exactly where it should be and makes a much stronger statement.

@LonginesPrime very much agree.

In theory I favour democracy. Then I compare the caliber of people in the House of Lords, and Bojo and his mob, and I wonder...

Brilliant

Thanks both, I am just at 1103 and had one Kathleen Stock mention, might skip through to 1140. Really interesting.
Thank you so much for posting

@LonginesPrime

I really like the term "biological realist" as an alternative to "gender critical" - it shifts the focus to exactly where it should be and makes a much stronger statement.

Oooh yes, I'm going to use biological realist from now on. Cuts to the point.

Yes please to biological realist. I'm one of them.

Amazing. There is hope.

Well isn't she the dogs bollocks?

This is just fantastic!

[On another note I'm new here - I have been sitting at home increasingly worried I am some kind of bigot, and finding a place where people openly and sensibly express what I have been thinking for (months? years!?) is such a relief. You are all amazing!]

Biological realism it is then.

No, don’t start saying “biological realism”.

It is too close to “race realism” which is a euphemism used by pseudoscientific racists.

It would be a propaganda gift to the T/MRA.

That was a good speech.

Biological Realist here.

@BlackForestCake

No, don’t start saying “biological realism”.

It is too close to “race realism” which is a euphemism used by pseudoscientific racists.

It would be a propaganda gift to the T/MRA.

Damn. That’s a good point.

Posted before I saw forests post.
Is it? Is saying biology is real akin to racist supremacy?

No, it isn't at all. But the phrases are too similar.

I've never heard of race realism. Going to look it up.

Woop woop. Well said. I now identify as a biological realist

Bravissima 👏👏👏👏👏

This is amazing...

Biological realist...

@BlackForestCake

No, it isn't at all. But the phrases are too similar.

I do see that, but do you think there is anything the TRAs would 'allow' women who don't capitulate to them to call themselves?