Billy Bragg continues to miss the point

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www.theguardian.com/music/2021/oct/29/billy-bragg-boris-johnson-album-politics-tour

'More recently, he said he has faced criticism from “gender-critical campaigners” after he started discussing the human rights of transgender people online. Is he aware of his status as a cisgender man speaking from a position of privilege? “I am very much so, yeah. It’s quite common for me to get called misogynistic simply because I support trans rights, but this is without any reference to all the other issues on which I support the rights of women – on abortion, against male violence.”'

What's the point of supporting women against male violence if you allow male rapists into women's prisons, women's domestic abuse refuges or women's changing rooms?

Supporting women’s rights to an abortion or not to face male violence is the bare fucking minimum, and he’s not even actually doing that.

He is clueless. And I always thought he was crap.

Ah, it must be time for the brilliant Nehanda again:

I'm amazed he knows he faces criticism considering he blocks every woman who so much as likes a GC comment.

What a decent guy. Really going out there for women by saying they should be allowed some control over their reproductive organs and men shouldn't batter them. What an incredible forward-thinking feminist ally.

(Twat.)

Thanks @invisiblecats - great song and video

He's against male violence and supports abortion but no one is giving him a medal for it?

Oh poor him. If he runs the vacuum around too I'm sure he will get one.

He wants a fucking medal for being in favour of abortion and against male violence - wow, thanks Billy, what would us little ladies do without great guys like you looking out for us?

'Look biatches, I've stood up for you on abortion AND on male violence, what more do you want? Your right to no males in your sports categories? No male rapists in female prisons? No males in female rape crisis centres? The right to be referred to as a woman rather than a 'body with a vagina'?!!! Never bloody happy are you? Well sorry, no can do, you've had more than enough from me already, plus it's really upsetting for male criminals if they can't go to a women's prison, so you're gonna have to just suck it up I'm afraid....'

As opposed to supporting male violence???

Isnt this a logical fallacy - I do so much for X therefore I should get leeway for Y?

Well all he has done here is state what everyone who supports this gender ideology believes. That you can support women's rights so far but no further when women's rights conflict with another group in society. Then you support that other group. Women's rights are limited to certain circumstances and contexts, unlike the rights of everyone else. Billy Bragg is at least being entirely consistent here.

He's really disappointed me. I love his music and we're usually on the same politically, but he's clueless with this one

"all the other issues on which I support the rights of women – on abortion, against male violence.”
It's a good trick sometimes to turn these things on their head so you can see them for what they are.
Has anybody in the history of politics ever said "I do support male violence"?

Idiot.

God, he's a plum, isn't he? He reminds me of David Lammy - very proud of his feminist credentials (in his own mind) and wants a medal for giving a vague shit about women, but doesn't actually have a bloody clue. Very tiresome

Y'know what? IDGAF if a man 'supports' abortion. A woman's right to abortion serves men as well as women. And saying male violence is bad is the bare minimum. Bourgeois scrotum-bearer.

'A woman's right to abortion serves men as well as women'

Quite right

Being against the bigger half of humanity hitting the smaller half of humanity is a bare minimum as a human being.

Does he think I should get a medal for having said that Year 6s (age 10-11, in the final year of primary school) shouldn't pick on Year 1s (age 5-6) in the playground?

Hi, I'm Purgatory, and I support world peace. Now excuse the following problematic stances of issues of the day from me...

As well as his track record on women's rights, Bragg's spoken out against free speech, as well as supported the rights of businesses to fire employees for their beliefs. So anti-women, anti-worker, anti-human rights.

I'm lefty as fuck - this is why I married a centrist Tory. Billy and his bros make my fanny clam up.

That's funny.

Listen to Romford Girls by Riff Raff. Explains it all.

@VoleClock

Thanks *@invisiblecats* - great song and video

Seconded. I enjoyed that.

[quote invisiblecats]Ah, it must be time for the brilliant Nehanda again:

[/quote] Perfect.

I wish, I wish, I wish you cared

About women and girls.