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YouTube has DELETED the Novara Media channel

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FindTheTruth · 26/10/2021 12:40

YouTube has DELETED the Novara Media channel. Novara has been a thorn in the side of lesbians.

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FindTheTruth · 26/10/2021 12:40

Ash Sarkar likens lesbian sexual orientation to racism and Transwoman Shon Faye, Novara media's new feminism spokesperson, once said to a woman “I'm a woman because I say I am - enjoy ur erasure”

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teawamutu · 26/10/2021 12:41

Hang on WUT? What grounds were given?

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 26/10/2021 12:44

are we sure they've just not run out of money? they're the ones that like to not pay their journalists, no?

teawamutu · 26/10/2021 12:50

Apparently users trying to access get this: "This account has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of YouTube’s policy against spam, deceptive practices, and misleading content or other Terms of Service violations.”

They're a bunch of self-righteous twats IMO, but if the suspension's unfair I hope they're back soon, with perhaps a little reflection on whether deplatforming really is the way to go.

nauticant · 26/10/2021 12:55

Yes, I'd like to know the grounds first.

That said though, Sarkar is primarily a propagandist and an enthusiastic spreader of disinformation.

teawamutu · 26/10/2021 13:03

Oh yes - if they've truly breached the rules on false info (and it would not surprise me, the Jonesian 'this is the right way to think therefore it must be true' is strong with these ones) they should absolutely have to refute, apologise etc.

As someone on Twitter put it: even if I think they're knobs, I want to be able to choose not to watch them.

Cerebelle · 26/10/2021 13:03

I wouldn't be surprised if it gets reinstated. Left wing channels sometimes get targeted by complaints by online right wing groups and the YouTube algorithm can ban them on that basis. The same happens the other way around of course as online harassment is a tactic well used across the political spectrum.

Agree I don't like them but they have the right to say what they think. Hope they get back online assuming they haven't actually broken the rules (which I don't know is the case).

donquixotedelamancha · 26/10/2021 13:17

They're a bunch of self-righteous twats IMO, but if the suspension's unfair I hope they're back soon

Given they have promised to crack down of the spread of fake news I highly doubt the suspension is unfair.

I avoid their 'news' but recall stuff about Israel trying to exterminate all Palestinians, nonsense attacking Assange's victims as CIA plants and calls to destroy the UK and reeducate it's former citizens.

You can say most of that on YouTube but you can't pretend to be a news company at the same time.

FindTheTruth · 26/10/2021 13:19

You can say most of that on YouTube but you can't pretend to be a news company at the same time.

Novara media, just like Pink News, is activism rather than news.

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donquixotedelamancha · 26/10/2021 13:20

I wouldn't be surprised if it gets reinstated.

I suspect you are right. They will pull the offending videos, promise to behave, then publicly claim victory.

crispsarny · 26/10/2021 13:21

@nauticant

Yes, I'd like to know the grounds first.

That said though, Sarkar is primarily a propagandist and an enthusiastic spreader of disinformation.

Glad others are seeing this, I’ve often wondered if Sarkar & OJ are paid tory shills, there is a lot of money to be made from stirring up shit between certain sections of society.
donquixotedelamancha · 26/10/2021 13:21

Novara media, just like Pink News, is activism rather than news.

I think that's rather generous. They both just peddle lies to sell adverts. It's the Katie Hopkins business model and it makes a lot of money.

Diaryofamadwoman · 26/10/2021 13:29

Yeah I've wondered if they're really serving the ruling class too - when Ash appears on GMB, she's repellant even to those who agree with most of what she says.

Thefartingsofaofdenmarkstreet · 26/10/2021 13:35

But....but....I thought that YouTube are perfectly entitled to decide what content they allow and don't allow on their own platform? It's not silencing anyone, it's just YouTube exercising their right as a business? That's the line isn't it?

To be fair, I've never watched any Novara media stuff so I don't know what it's like. Ash Sarkar said recently didn't she, that female public toilets should totally allow males in because your toilet at home is gender neutral, so I don't think she is the brightest bulb in the box anyway....

squishee · 26/10/2021 13:40

I can access the channel, no problem

Heruka · 26/10/2021 13:44

Looks like they have a show on tonight at 5 saying ‘YouTube shut us down with no explanation’.

Thefartingsofaofdenmarkstreet · 26/10/2021 13:45

It's been reinstated.

Heruka · 26/10/2021 13:45

They can be a bit sanctimonious and have got it totally wrong on sex/ gender issues, as well as a few others, but they can be worth a listen too imo.

BraveBananaBadge · 26/10/2021 13:47

Yes, this seems strange and I'd be surprised if it was permanent. Lots of people outraged about this appalled about the "fake news" of the "anti trans" BBC as an alternative. All very much in a little bubble.

NecessaryScene · 26/10/2021 16:07

Glenn Greenwald roasting them mercilessly:

twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1452969299140825092

Google has deleted one of the best and largest left-wing media outlets in the UK. No warning or explanation was provided. Just zapped it out of existence.

Congratulations to online censorship advocates: this is the system of repression and arbitrary silencing you created!

Maybe the unseen Google overlords who made this decision will reverse it. Maybe they won't. 🤷‍♂️

@novaramedia and its employees will now just wait around helplessly as they see if hidden authorities allow them to be heard, like desperate, hapless defendants in a Kafka novel

In many ways, liberals and even the left are reaping what they've sown: not just by cheering a regime of censorship in the belief it wouldn't be used against them, but also serving tech monopolies by demonizing any free speech alternatives - like Rumble - as right-wing sites.

Liberals have created a framework where there are only two legitimate venues: 1) corporate media outlets or 2) tech monopolies like Google and Facebook.

So when they are excluded and censured and banned there, they have no alternatives, because they've demonized all others.

Trying to turn free speech into a right-wing value is one of the dumbest fucking things liberals have done. Now when they're censored by corporate giants or the state, they have no principles on which to object, no values to which they can appeal: just have to beg for reversal.

nauticant · 26/10/2021 16:12

In a way that will confuse many, Julia Hartley-Brewer also stands with Novara Media to show how she supports free speech:

twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1452954956219179012

CorrBlimeyGG · 26/10/2021 16:15

It's been back online for hours.

Awkward!

ScreamingMeMeSawUs · 26/10/2021 16:45

YouTube does this all the time, often for spurious reasons (false claims of abusive content, false copywrite strikes). I don't think humans get involved in the decisions.

1Week · 26/10/2021 16:59

Censorship is an ongoing issue Corr!

Scarleh for ya as we say in Dublin.

ScreamingMeMeSawUs · 26/10/2021 17:43

Blimey, Ash Sarkar has gone on Unherd.

Ash Sarkar: Left and Right Must Unite Against Big Tech Censorship

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