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YouTube has DELETED the Novara Media channel

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FindTheTruth · 26/10/2021 12:40

YouTube has DELETED the Novara Media channel. Novara has been a thorn in the side of lesbians.

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donquixotedelamancha · 26/10/2021 18:38

Ash Sarkar: Left and Right Must Unite Against Big Tech Censorship

LMAO. Massive fan of Twitter banning women until her channel goes down for a couple of hours.

beastlyslumber · 26/10/2021 19:57

I'm glad it's been reinstated. Youtube should not be deciding what people get to see and hear. I think Novara is a load of absolute bollocks, but the right to free speech is absolute.

Impressed that Ash went on Unherd! Hope that handsome man gave her a hard time.

ArabellaScott · 26/10/2021 20:02

[quote nauticant]In a way that will confuse many, Julia Hartley-Brewer also stands with Novara Media to show how she supports free speech:

twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1452954956219179012[/quote]
Delicious. Grin

Fifteentoes · 26/10/2021 20:37

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

are we sure they've just not run out of money? they're the ones that like to not pay their journalists, no?
Indeed. Because only having 99.999999% of the UK media landscape serving the interests of money is not quite enough.
Fifteentoes · 26/10/2021 20:41

@donquixotedelamancha

I wouldn't be surprised if it gets reinstated.

I suspect you are right. They will pull the offending videos, promise to behave, then publicly claim victory.

There are no offending videos. It was pulled, and then later reinstated with no change of content. Youtube have apologised but haven't offered any explanation.

My guess is some of their enemies worked out how to game the reporting process to set off YouTube's bots, but that's only a guess.

KimikosNightmare · 26/10/2021 21:12

[quote nauticant]In a way that will confuse many, Julia Hartley-Brewer also stands with Novara Media to show how she supports free speech:

twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1452954956219179012[/quote]
Unfortunately I have to agree with Julia. I suppose they have the right to peddle their complete twaddle.

KimikosNightmare · 26/10/2021 21:13

@donquixotedelamancha

Ash Sarkar: Left and Right Must Unite Against Big Tech Censorship

LMAO. Massive fan of Twitter banning women until her channel goes down for a couple of hours.

What a hypocrite Sarkar is.
Abhannmor · 26/10/2021 21:17

Ash Sarkar has a plan B I reckon. Judging by the way she was sucking up to Lord Archcreep on Broadcasting House last Sunday. They were very matey.

1Week · 26/10/2021 21:28

How long ahead are these Unherd interviews planned?

Didn't Ash get an awful trolling a while back, a frivolous tweet on the day those 3 poor gay lads were murdered, if I'm correct. Most on here were saying it was ill timed but the abuse was totally unnecessary

ArabellaScott · 26/10/2021 21:31

She did, 1Week, she's had some horrible abuse, completely revolting sexist and racist nonsense.

1Week · 26/10/2021 21:38

I thought that but wasn't sure of the details

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 27/10/2021 08:07

Indeed. Because only having 99.999999% of the UK media landscape serving the interests of money is not quite enough.

Being a luxury communist means not having to pay people for their work I expect

LaetitiaASD · 27/10/2021 12:33

I emailed Ash yesterday. I kept it pretty polite, but I was very blunt with my language ("cutting bits off" that kind of thing). She replied with a one sentence response which was basically insulting, but not that bad. She didn't reply when I followed it up pointing out that she had just achieved joint first in my "best arguments I've ever heard from a TRA" list, "#nodebate because #noargument" and asking her when and how she's going to stop digging and instead climb out of the hole she's dug herself. She didn't reply a second time.

InspiralCoalescenceRingdown · 27/10/2021 12:49

Being a luxury communist means not having to pay people for their work I expect

I guess exploiting the workers is OK if you bellyfeel IngSoc. Sadly some left-wing outlets have form for not paying writers (HuffPo has been criticized for this) - lets the side down, IMO.

1Week · 27/10/2021 15:32

The utter state of the left.

donquixotedelamancha · 27/10/2021 17:51

The utter state of the left.

Half a dozen twonks who think they are communists and have a website and a youtube channel is hardly indicative of the state of 'the left'. I might equally infer that 'the right' is a mess because Katie Hopkins is an arse.

KimikosNightmare · 27/10/2021 18:38

The comparison with Katie Hopkins is spurious.

Sarkar gets invited on to Question Time, Newsnight and other media platforms and is taken seriously.

She had Corbyn's ear and had Corbyn won an election would probably have been involved in policy- making.

I find her loathsome. I despise people like Sarkar and Sally Rooney going on about being "Marxists" and "Communists" whilst taking all the benefits of a capitalist society (including the ability to spout rubbish freely) safe in the knowledge they'll never have to live in a Marxist regime.

If by some nightmare we did end up in a Marxist regime the likes of Sarkar would , of course, be safely at the trough in the inner circle.

donquixotedelamancha · 27/10/2021 19:08

Sarkar gets invited on to Question Time, Newsnight and other media platforms and is taken seriously

So did Hopkins, in her time. I would argue Sarkar is just following the business model she pioneered. I take your point that the ideas of Novara media's end of the left do have more influence than the far right at the moment (these things vary over the decades) but it's still a small bubble of idiots.

I despise people like Sarkar and Sally Rooney going on about being "Marxists" and "Communists" whilst taking all the benefits of a capitalist society (including the ability to spout rubbish freely) safe in the knowledge they'll never have to live in a Marxist regime.

I agree. To me it's no different to calling yourself a nazi. Why not call yourself a utopian socialist unless you specifically want to identify with political regimes which murdered tens of millions?

1Week · 27/10/2021 19:10

@donquixotedelamancha

The utter state of the left.

Half a dozen twonks who think they are communists and have a website and a youtube channel is hardly indicative of the state of 'the left'. I might equally infer that 'the right' is a mess because Katie Hopkins is an arse.

Half a dozen twonks, most of the mainstream media and the bloody Labour Party. State of them, I say again!
Diaryofamadwoman · 27/10/2021 19:16

Marx never advocated the murder of tens of millions.

I'm very appreciative of Marx's material analysis. Sarker would be wise to pay more attention to it instead of jumping on the woke capitalist gravy train

1Week · 27/10/2021 19:25

No he didn't.
But Marxism doesn't seem to work unless everyone's on board, down to the last detail.
If they're not, they must shut up. If they won't shut up they must be gotten rid of.

donquixotedelamancha · 27/10/2021 19:29

Marx never advocated the murder of tens of millions.

Indeed, nor did he advocate even small c communism except as a a vague idea for a post-scarcity economy.

Communism's defining characteristics are totalitarianism, state control of large capital, state control of culture/media and political violence.

I don't see a big distinction between Novara media and Stormfront. I don't want either banned unless they promote violence but I wouldn't complain at YouTube not wanting to host them.

Abhannmor · 27/10/2021 20:18

@Diaryofamadwoman

Marx never advocated the murder of tens of millions.

I'm very appreciative of Marx's material analysis. Sarker would be wise to pay more attention to it instead of jumping on the woke capitalist gravy train

Spot on. Where do mystical gender feelings fit in with dialectical materialism?
InspiralCoalescenceRingdown · 27/10/2021 20:43

To be fair, I think YouTube should be more transparent about actions like this - especially with bigger channels. When you've engaged in a business arrangement with a channel to share ad revenue, you're not just moderating comment threads anymore.

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