The politicians - what a cop out.
We can't discuss this because we don't have a common language.
That the fucking point.
When one group insists on changing the meaning of words such as "woman" and "man" where can the discussion possibly go?
We just circle back to TWAW/TMAM precisely because there's been a deliberate effort to dismantle the very terms of reference by which a debate can be conducted - all on the basis of you will not offend me by using definitions of words I don't like/find offensive.
And Amelia - FFS. Wearing masks, posters with highly incendiary and threatening messages and targeted SM attacks against a specific individual goes well beyond a legal right to protest.
It's harassment, bullying and intimidation.
Wanting an intellectual "safe space" for Trans people cannot be legitimately bought at the expense of creating a physical safe space for someone with differing views on gender ideology.
Amelia argument came down to you can't discuss peoples identity, it's not like Brexit.
Well conversely I say I can discuss my identity as a woman and if you choose to co-opt that identity you don't get to stop me speaking out having made a conscious decision to hold this debate on my turf (pun intended).