Helen Joyce speaking at Tory conference

[poshme]

So the Labour Party don't understand biology, and the tories have a fringe event with 'Helen Joyce, in conversation' hosted by Children & Women First.
Anyone know who they are? I haven't heard of them before.

Baroness Nicholson is Children and Women first.
Hurrah for the Baroness!!

childrenandwomenfirst.org

The tories have a fringe event at the labour conference?

Woah the Tories and Helen Joyce! If I was Keir I would be worried with such a powerful voice on the side of the opposition. God help the tories if they try and manipulate her or shut her down or have their own agenda for what they want her to say.

Yay... The Baroness' group..

Was this about the webinar on Friday?

It almost makes me want to vote Tory - bloody hell

Well hasn’t this made my bloody day!!

The Baroness has also stated she wants to set up a live debate with speakers from all aspects of the discussion.

If anyone can do it, she can.

Quite a coup for the Baroness.

I wonder if the Noaksey crew will try to get it cancelled?

I'd love to see a well-hosted debate where contributors aren't gagged by being told that they can't say certain fairly orthodox things.

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

The tories have a fringe event at the labour conference?

No- sorry I wasn't clear. It's at Tory conference.

Thanks, I have no idea how conferences work, and things are so mad that I'd have believed it too!

FANTASTIC! Two impressive women.

Bet this venue won't need to be kept secret for fear of aggressive violent fuckwits disrupting it.

Ooooh. Now it will be interesting to see who pitches up at that. Everyone if you have a Tory MP, write to them and encourage them to attend.

Hurrah! She will certainly make a lot more sense than the numpties trying to avoid saying that only women have cervixes at the Labour conference!

There's a second event- baroness Nicholson hosting a discussion with various people including nimco Ali, Lisa Townsend & Nicola williams about women's sex based rights in prisons sports & healthcare.

There are also various other fringe events looking at the importance of free speech.

Oooh fabulous, more reason to invite her on to woman's hour...!

Thank goodness for the Baroness. Actual debate and politics.

So OP, if you haven't visited the childrenandwomenfirst.org website - do!! On the meetings tab, the penultimate meeting, just take a listen to Helen speak there from a webinar held last Friday. She is immense in her passion and articulacy on this subject. Really worth time.

I could weep thinking about this. If Labour were having events like this, I'd start to have some confidence I could trust them. As things stand, I don't. My vote counts for very little as I live in one of the safest Labour seats in the country, but I know there are lots of people with the same concerns as me who live in far more marginal constitutuencies. There isn't a cat in hell's chance that Labour will win Scotland back in the foreseeable future. It's looking very unlikely that they will get the Red Wall seats back. With the worst Tory government I can ever remember in power, how in the name of the wee man is it possible that Labour can't be ahead in the polls?

Identity politics, that's why.

www.feministcurrent.com/2018/03/23/leftist-women-uk-refuse-accept-labours-attempts-silence-critiques-gender-identity/ I'll post this article again. Scroll down for the devastating account of what happens when idpol/Queer Theory aficionados try to get involved with grassroots community projects with the (genuinely) most marginalised and oppressed minority groups.

@highame

It almost makes me want to vote Tory - bloody hell

Same here!

I hope Helen Joyce repeats what she said on the webinar, it was damn powerful, spot on and needs to be heard by the Government.

Here's the aforementioned session with Helen Joyce (and Baroness Nicholson, Sonia Appleby, Jean Hatchet, Graham Linehan and Posie Parker).

Helen was indeed awesome.

(And so was everyone else)

@NecessaryScene - thanks for doing that :) I should have done that - doh!