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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Keir Starmer on LBC at 9am to answer listeners' questions

35 replies

BluePorchAwning · 14/06/2021 07:48

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Hope he gets asked some good questions! I'm off to work so will miss it.

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Proven · 14/06/2021 07:52

Haha!

'Why are you so shit?' just about covers it.

teawamutu · 14/06/2021 08:06

Please, please, someone ask him the Staniland Question....

highame · 14/06/2021 08:11

Someone ask him about he Pink News video and ask him if Stonewall should write the laws of the UK

toffeebutterpopcorn · 14/06/2021 08:14

LBC... will they ask him anything decent?

JustbackfromBangkok · 14/06/2021 08:15

The researchers decide who is allowed to get through to ask questions. It will be interesting to see how it works out.

Redshoeblueshoe · 14/06/2021 09:23

On LBC's Twitter feed most of the questions are about self ID. But I've heard nothing yet.

teawamutu · 14/06/2021 09:26

@Redshoeblueshoe

On LBC's Twitter feed most of the questions are about self ID. But I've heard nothing yet.
That's VERY interesting. Starting to get some cut-through?
Redshoeblueshoe · 14/06/2021 09:36

There you go.
He won't discuss it.
And we're all stupid.

Couchbettato · 14/06/2021 09:37

Well at least we know he's a misogynist and a coward

Redshoeblueshoe · 14/06/2021 09:42

So a popularity rating of -7 isn't enough.
FFS

Masdintle · 14/06/2021 09:54

What did he say?

Redshoeblueshoe · 14/06/2021 09:57

He was asked if the Labour party was too woke, and he basically said no one understood what woke means.
Then refused to discuss it.

GreyhoundG1rl · 14/06/2021 09:58

@Redshoeblueshoe

He was asked if the Labour party was too woke, and he basically said no one understood what woke means. Then refused to discuss it.
What an utter imbecile he is 🙄
teawamutu · 14/06/2021 09:59

Hmm. So he's not exactly nailing his rainbow flag to the mast either, is he?

Thus pleasing exactly nobody. Slow handclap.

zanahoria · 14/06/2021 10:21

He takes Boris apart at PMQs as he has a fine legal brain but not sure most people care.

He rarely shows any actual signs of leadership, sits on the fence on most issues including this one.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 14/06/2021 11:31

@teawamutu

Hmm. So he's not exactly nailing his rainbow flag to the mast either, is he?

Thus pleasing exactly nobody. Slow handclap.

I agree

Even 17 year old ds2 said that he was disappointed with Starmer, thought when he took over that he would be very good and potentially’save’ labour

PearPickingPorky · 14/06/2021 11:40

I too had quite high hopes for him, alas.

He's somehow an even bigger disappointment than Corbyn.

TedImgoingmad · 14/06/2021 11:48

It's deliberate. He knows he will lose the sensible female vote if he takes the TRA line, so he keeps everyone hanging on, and hopes that Boris will become so intolerable that we are forced to vote for Labour on the vague hope they will have our backs. It's the most pathetic, cowardly form of politics. Instead of giving us the hope of a party that will truly embrace feminism for women - not every Tom, Dick and Harry who thinks feminism= support animal - keep us fearful and desperate, and left choosing the devil we know.

Floisme · 14/06/2021 11:55

Yes keep us fearful and try and guilt trip us too: 'If you don't vote for us xxx will happen and it'll be all your fault.'

I think it's a shame it wasn't a more specific question about self ID as I think he'd have found it much harder to sidestep that when he brought up the issue himself only a few days ago.

Floisme · 14/06/2021 11:56

Sorry if that sounds critical of whoever asked the question - I'm grateful to anyone who got off their arse and tried to engage with him!

highame · 14/06/2021 12:30

It's always been the case that Labour has got into power because something went wrong for the conservatives, or when Blair appealed to the masses. It's almost as thought labour doesn't want to govern. You can't win power if you only win by default. That's the worst political strategy ever and I include Jo Swinson saying she was preparing for government at the last election

Floisme · 14/06/2021 12:49

I got the strong impression during the Blair governments that some Labour voters preferred being in opposition.

JediGnot · 14/06/2021 12:50

You can't blame labour for the stupidity of swathes of the population and the lies told repeatedly over decades by the majority of the billionaire owned press in the country.

Corbyn would have been PM if the press were honest, ditto pretty much every labour leader over 40 years.

I firmly believe that a huge reason we have the TRA debate is that the right have pushed it with the sole intension of splitting the left, just like they did with brexit.

KS is in a very difficult position, but it is time for him to say that women's rights simply have to be a priority, and that whilst he supports trans rights there are very serious child protection and women's safety concerns that need addressing.

I'd like to think that he is playing a slow game with regards covid and brexit and trans rights - he firmly believes the correct course of action but is being careful to have the public significantly on board before he jumps headlong into a nightmare of a debate (not least a nightmare because at least 80% of the media will completely misrepresent him)

GreyhoundG1rl · 14/06/2021 12:51

but is being careful to have the public significantly on board before he jumps headlong into a nightmare of a debate 🤔

highame · 14/06/2021 13:20

Yes Greyhound If the public were going to be onboard with left of left Labour, they would have done it a long time ago.

My family have been labour since its inception and I remember how, for Labour, Socialism as a big no go area. The middle classes prefer to be called socialist (albeit armchair socialists) because it's cool.

You suppose Jedignot that working class people can't think for themselves and that with a bit of tuition, they will come on board and to call anyone stupid because they don't vote labour is a very privileged and crass thing to say.

I assume you think the big majority the conservatives gained in the last election was nothing to do with Corbyn or anti-Semitism, or virtue signalling, it was just down to an ignorant electorate? Hey ho