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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Keir Starmer on LBC at 9am to answer listeners' questions

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BluePorchAwning · 14/06/2021 07:48

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Hope he gets asked some good questions! I'm off to work so will miss it.

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GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 14/06/2021 13:26

sits on the fence on most issues, including this one
I know some people who have a squirrel that visits their garden regularly. They call it Kier, as it's always on the fence.

JediGnot · 14/06/2021 13:26

@highame

Yes Greyhound If the public were going to be onboard with left of left Labour, they would have done it a long time ago.

My family have been labour since its inception and I remember how, for Labour, Socialism as a big no go area. The middle classes prefer to be called socialist (albeit armchair socialists) because it's cool.

You suppose Jedignot that working class people can't think for themselves and that with a bit of tuition, they will come on board and to call anyone stupid because they don't vote labour is a very privileged and crass thing to say.

I assume you think the big majority the conservatives gained in the last election was nothing to do with Corbyn or anti-Semitism, or virtue signalling, it was just down to an ignorant electorate? Hey ho

Many people can think for themselves, but many believe whatever bullshit is repeated at them as fact decade after decade.

I note that I never said anything about working class people - you're the bigot who assumed that I was talking about working class people.

I was as much talking about the upper middle classes who are being screwed (relatively) by right wing capitalism for the ultra rich almost as much as the poor are.

highame · 14/06/2021 13:31

The reason I made the assumption is because Labour itself thinks working class people need educating out of their wrong think. Labour have a habit of trying to tell people how they should think.

Upper Middle Class - got a definition for that one?

HappydaysArehere · 14/06/2021 13:48

Keir Starmer is anything but an idiot. He is attempting to put the Labour Party together.

PearPickingPorky · 14/06/2021 14:06

@HappydaysArehere

Keir Starmer is anything but an idiot. He is attempting to put the Labour Party together.
If this is a deliberate tactic, then he's letting the women's rights issue slip way too far.
Twinkie01 · 14/06/2021 14:08

Corbyn would have been PM if the press were honest, ditto pretty much every labour leader over 40 years.

^ what utter rot. Corbyn and his policies did for him not the press.

GrandmaMazur · 14/06/2021 14:12

Has he said one word to support Rosie Duffield yet?

teawamutu · 14/06/2021 14:42

@HappydaysArehere

Keir Starmer is anything but an idiot. He is attempting to put the Labour Party together.
Alienating 50% of the population and expecting them to carry on voting for him, delivering leaflets and making tea while giving up their fundamental rights seems a pretty odd strategy to me.
PronounssheRa · 14/06/2021 14:53

@GrandmaMazur

Has he said one word to support Rosie Duffield yet?
No

I firmly believe that a huge reason we have the TRA debate is that the right have pushed it with the sole intension of splitting the left, just like they did with brexit.

The left has led to anne Ruzylo losing her position as women's officer, opened up women's only shortlists to men who identify as women, signed daft pledges which said women's groups were hate groups and stated male rapists should be housed in women's prisons.

Whoever started it the left have embraced it more than anyone, the right just have to sit back and watch.

PaterPower · 15/06/2021 09:42

”The middle classes prefer to be called socialist (albeit armchair socialists) because it's cool.”

Possibly… at least up to the point they’re asked to start paying for those socialist policies to be implemented, at which point it all falls apart.

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