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NoSquirrels · 13/03/2021 22:41

gender photographers = female photographers
Thanks iPhone

Artesia · 13/03/2021 22:41

@Whenthesunshines - but why was the Glasgow parade allowed to go ahead as an organised event when this wasn't? Is it because it's more important for men to gather to celebrate winning a game than for women to gather to mourn and peacefully protest against male violence?

Whenthesunshines · 13/03/2021 22:42

@Elbels

I'm really torn here.

I was there in the day time and it was incredibly peaceful, poignant and inclusive. The bandstand was off limits, because why would you go up there?

No one said anything, everyone paid their respects with flowers, stood and then left.

It feels, from what I've read, this evening has become incredibly politicised, and the original purpose has been overtaken. Even the fact that people were on the bandstand seems really disrespectful. Maybe I'm wrong.

Last paragraph - You're not wrong.

VVKills27 · 13/03/2021 22:42

Even sad, silent, contemplative women are deemed a threat to be oppressed. And I don’t believe for one moment this was a because these women posed a health risk-there’s less social distancing on my kids playground at pick up. This is about woman being kept in their place. And a police force that really needs to look at itself right now, not us.

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TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 13/03/2021 22:43

@Artesia

*@Whenthesunshines* - but why was the Glasgow parade allowed to go ahead as an organised event when this wasn't? Is it because it's more important for men to gather to celebrate winning a game than for women to gather to mourn and peacefully protest against male violence?

Yes

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ChardonnaysPetDragon · 13/03/2021 22:43

It's infuriating.

They take the knee at BLM, they like around with the football crowds, they dance at the carnival and at the extinction rallies.

WFT possessed then tonight?

2Rebecca · 13/03/2021 22:44

The trouble is the vigil and the police have now become the story not the death of Sarah. That can be the trouble with large memorial gatherings. The gathering becomes the news and the point of the gathering gets lost

overnightangel · 13/03/2021 22:45

@NoSquirrels

The police should have been there in order to exclude men from the vicinity.

The ‘press’ should have sent gender photographers.

The police should have had female officers in the inner circle near the bandstand. Keep the male officers in the outer circle excluding men.

Awful.

No words🤦🏻‍♀️

Whenthesunshines · 13/03/2021 22:45

@Artesia

*@Whenthesunshines* - but why was the Glasgow parade allowed to go ahead as an organised event when this wasn't? Is it because it's more important for men to gather to celebrate winning a game than for women to gather to mourn and peacefully protest against male violence?

When was the Glasgow parade organised? Was it done with only a few days notice? Whether we like it or not, police need to crowd control and for that they need resources in place. That takes time. I wonder if things would have been different if the organisers had planned it for next weekend say?

OvaHere · 13/03/2021 22:45

@Elbels

I'm really torn here.

I was there in the day time and it was incredibly peaceful, poignant and inclusive. The bandstand was off limits, because why would you go up there?

No one said anything, everyone paid their respects with flowers, stood and then left.

It feels, from what I've read, this evening has become incredibly politicised, and the original purpose has been overtaken. Even the fact that people were on the bandstand seems really disrespectful. Maybe I'm wrong.

From what I can gather there were some in attendance with agendas other than just paying quiet respects at a vigil. Unfortunately any kind of night time event attracts this element now.

It was handled very badly by the Met Police though.

Coffeeandrev · 13/03/2021 22:45

@TheRabbitOfCaerbannog

There is no legal requirement to wear a mask outdoors

Imagine if it was Meghan and she hadn't wore a mask. Can picture the headlines.

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TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 13/03/2021 22:45

I think as the details of the case come out Sarah's story will very sadly be amplified and shared for some time. We cannot let this pass.

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overnightangel · 13/03/2021 22:46

@2Rebecca

The trouble is the vigil and the police have now become the story not the death of Sarah. That can be the trouble with large memorial gatherings. The gathering becomes the news and the point of the gathering gets lost

Exactly, it becomes the domain of people latching onto something to push their own agenda.

Someone wearing an “I AM SARAH” t shirt ffs , how dare they.

No concern for the individual or the family just an agenda (or to be seen)

Melroses · 13/03/2021 22:46

@2Rebecca

The trouble is the vigil and the police have now become the story not the death of Sarah. That can be the trouble with large memorial gatherings. The gathering becomes the news and the point of the gathering gets lost

Yes you are right.

The point has got lost here.

The day time was so dignified. This chaos will be the news now.

Whenthesunshines · 13/03/2021 22:47

@2Rebecca

The trouble is the vigil and the police have now become the story not the death of Sarah. That can be the trouble with large memorial gatherings. The gathering becomes the news and the point of the gathering gets lost

Yes, there is always a danger that mass gatherings of any nature get highjacked by gobshites.

Coffeeandrev · 13/03/2021 22:47

@Whenthesunshines

overnight Maybe something has been happening for the last 13 months or so and there are laws in place This.

If Sarah's family asked people not to go why did they? Totally disrespectful. Feelings are high but this isn't the way.

OldRailer · 13/03/2021 22:48

Yes,the extinction rebellion activity is enabled.

Whenthesunshines · 13/03/2021 22:49

Someone wearing an “I AM SARAH” t shirt ffs , how dare they.
This made my stomach turn.

NuclearDH · 13/03/2021 22:50

One of Sarah’s friends has done a blog post saying her memory has been hijacked by people with their own agenda. That this is not what she would have wanted.

Whenthesunshines · 13/03/2021 22:50

If Sarah's family asked people not to go why did they?

Is this true? If it is then the whole thing is a a fking disgrace.

FlyingByTheSeatof · 13/03/2021 22:51

@2Rebecca

The trouble is the vigil and the police have now become the story not the death of Sarah. That can be the trouble with large memorial gatherings. The gathering becomes the news and the point of the gathering gets lost

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks this

So little respect towards Sarah and her family as they asked for this not to go ahead.

Cokie3 · 13/03/2021 22:52

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NuclearDH · 13/03/2021 22:52

www.spiked-online.com/2021/03/13/this-is-not-what-sarah-would-have-wanted/

fioreun · 13/03/2021 22:53

It wasn't a parade in Glasgow. It was a gathering of Ranger's fans celebrating a big win that had just happened. The Police chose how to respond to an event that was not preplanned. Just like tonight.

Agree that Sarah must be remembered.

Whenthesunshines · 13/03/2021 22:54

@NuclearDH

One of Sarah’s friends has done a blog post saying her memory has been hijacked by people with their own agenda. That this is not what she would have wanted.

This is exactly what many of us are saying here. Can you link it? I'd like to read it.

I'm going to have to step away from this soon, I'm getting so angry.
HOW DARE THEY?
If, heaven forbid, I was ever in Sarah's family and friend's position and this happened. I wouldn't cope.
'I AM SARAH' t-shirts??? FFS. Who are these idiots?