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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Amazon banning “when Harry became Sally”

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CoffeeTeaChocolate · 26/02/2021 19:18

One step forward, one step back....

Amazon has introduced a new “hate speech policy” and banned a book about trans gender. Conservative media is referred to this as digital book burning.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/republican-senators-send-letter-to-jeff-bezos-asking-why-amazon-pulled-book-by-conservative-author-11614212331

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/freebeacon.com/latest-news/amazon-created-new-hate-speech-policy-before-banning-bestselling-book-on-transgenderism/amp/

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MissBarbary · 01/03/2021 13:13

That article would be better without the hyperbole. Amazon has not killed bookshops; e-books have not killed bookshops. The book trade has responded better than most sectors to the threat of online sales.

The village I grew up in in the 60s and 70s had a newsagent who kept a very small stock of books. It closed but the village now has a proper bookshop. It's the same in many rural locations. The city I live in has new, small local independent bookshops too.

FindTheTruth · 13/03/2021 05:14

Update
www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-wont-sell-books-framing-lgbtq-identities-as-mental-illnesses-11615511380?

Amazon . com Inc. said it recently removed a three-year-old book about transgender issues from its platforms because it decided not to sell books that frame transgender and other sexual identities as mental illnesses

McDuffy · 13/03/2021 06:15

This is really concerning Sad I pay for Amazon prime but try not to use them. Going to try harder.

Hibari · 13/03/2021 06:32

@CoffeeTeaChocolate

Hollow, it is “When Harry became Sally”. I haven’t read it but apparently it is about transgender and allegedly respectfully written.
It frames being transgender as a mental illness.

Not really respectful or in line with current scientific or psychological evidence.
If that's enough for them to chose not to sell it... I guess that's up to them? /shrug

FindTheTruth · 13/03/2021 06:49

Amazon have decided to ban books that 'frame transgender and other sexual identities as mental illnesses'

Messages banned by Amazon:

  1. Parents of children with gender dysphoria have been told their children will commit suicide if they don't transition. Yet studies show 80%+ of of children with gender dysphoria will naturally grow out of it.
FindTheTruth · 13/03/2021 06:53

Messages in the book banned by Amazon:

  1. 41% of people who identify as transgender will attempt suicide at some point in their lives. And people who have had transition surgery are 19 times more likely than average to die by suicide
FindTheTruth · 13/03/2021 06:54

Messages in the book banned by Amazon:

  1. These statistics are heartbreaking and should stop us rushing into gender ideology
Hibari · 13/03/2021 06:55

@FindTheTruth

Amazon have decided to ban books that 'frame transgender and other sexual identities as mental illnesses'

Messages banned by Amazon:

  1. Parents of children with gender dysphoria have been told their children will commit suicide if they don't transition. Yet studies show 80%+ of of children with gender dysphoria will naturally grow out of it.
Can I get a link to those studies?
ChakaDakotaRegina · 13/03/2021 07:08

@UppityPuppity

Just checked - Mein Kampf is still for sale, so glad to see the Amazon ‘hate speech policy’ is being consistently applied...
Worth repeating
SpiderinaWingMirror · 13/03/2021 07:10

Interestingly you can buy Mein Kampf on Amazon, but not a book criticising transgender trends.

Hibari · 13/03/2021 07:46

banning and censoring critical voices on gender, on coronavirus and on other issues where only the approved viewpoint is allowed.

I just caught this.

So... are we not okay with corona virus deniers getting shut down?

Is Mumsnet okay with corona virus denial?

JohnRokesmith · 13/03/2021 07:49

@Hibari

banning and censoring critical voices on gender, on coronavirus and on other issues where only the approved viewpoint is allowed.

I just caught this.

So... are we not okay with corona virus deniers getting shut down?

Is Mumsnet okay with corona virus denial?

I believe in free speech; this includes allowing delusional idiots like coronavirus denialists free speech as well. After all, censoring them only adds to their credibility.
Hibari · 13/03/2021 07:55

After all, censoring them only adds to their credibility.

I disagree on that, de-platforming is safer than legitimizing them by affording them a pulpit.

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