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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS trans guidance- URGENT request for help!

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Watermonster · 08/12/2020 14:19

Several of us have spent over a year trying to get local NHS policy to consider the needs of women, not just males who identify as women, in setting policy about wards, recommending puberty blockers and breast binding to teenage girls etc.
As a result the local NHS CCG reluctantly carried out an Equality Impact assessment, which shows the trans guidance directly harms women and girls. Even the doctors wrote in to complain. The board want to pass it anyway, but have opened a public survey for feedback by 15th December.
PLEASE help us by responding - 1000s of women will be negatively affected by this .Here's the info you need-

copy of the Equality impact assessment to read

bnssgccg-media.ams3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/attachments/govbody_1Dec20_item6.1.pdf

and the survey for comments

bnssgccg.nhs.uk/get-involved/surveys-and-consultations/engagement-equality-impact-assessment-supporting-trans-people-best-practice-guidance/

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nothingcomestonothing · 18/12/2020 10:21

Inky How can the EIA say the impact of this policy on the PC of sex is neutral? When it's not permitted to discuss/disclose a person's sex, how can other patients raise their concerns about sharing a ward with an opposite sex bodied person? Or withhold their consent to examinations by a staff member whose body and stated identity don't align? And paper curtains solve the problem for those with religious needs? FFS, these institutions are so captured.

Inkysmummy · 18/12/2020 23:41

nothingcomestonothing Indeed I wish they had separated sex from gender reassignment in the EIA which might have allowed them to stop and think about this PC on its own. I’ve seen other policies from other trusts which differ markedly in length and content which I find a bit surprising tbh given the cross-pollination going on.
Are there any “model” ones out there?

I’ve almost come to the conclusion that until the Ann Sinnott Judicial Review application outcome is known, there is not a great deal I could really achieve on my own. In her Crowdfunded case note update re her challenge to the EChr Statutory Code she says the “argument is compelling and the evidence damning.” The other JR re prisons will hopefully help too re same sex spaces. I appreciate that this could take over a year to conclude but there does seem to be much more public awareness now which was lacking when the policies were first drafted. Maybe the scots will have also debated the self-ID proposals too which will raise awareness even more.
I’ve tried to find an English law equivalent of the Scots legislation approved last week re ‘sex not gender’ but so far can’t find anything. If you or anyone else knows of something please link here.

334bu · 19/12/2020 00:00

A Health Board that on page 2 of its document cannot even get the 9 protected characteristics right!!!!! Neither " Gender" nor "Gender Identity are protected characteristics.
Wonder who wrote this document?

334bu · 19/12/2020 00:02

Sorry above refers to University Hospitals of Morecambe Bay

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 19/12/2020 09:01

So sorry I didn’t see this in time, Watermonster. Best of luck. Please let us know the results.

Watermonster · 21/12/2020 11:49

@Inkysmummy
Have pm'd you

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