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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Damian Barr

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AbsintheFriends · 01/07/2020 17:39

I know there's loads going on at the moment, and Damian Barr is just one bearded misogynist in an increasingly dystopian world, but he's the one who kicked up a huge self-righteous fuss about Baroness Nicholson and got her ousted from her position at the Booker Prize on the grounds of homophobia and transphobia. Who would have imagined that such a zealous icon of ideological purity would turn out to have said things like this??

twitter.com/MLagouste/status/1278345389150662658

(Oh yes. Any one of the several million of us on FWR who has seen a bearded misogynist hiding behind a trans-rights banner...)

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risefromyourgrave · 01/07/2020 20:13

You are probably right, such a coward hiding his Twitter feed.

SophocIestheFox · 01/07/2020 20:16

Of course he’ll get away with it! It’s only women who have to be nice. Where’s the fun in telling men to choke on a dick? It’s probably worth another airing of the observation that it’s not actual transphobia that really gets the monitors in a tizzy, such as that displayed by Damians vile tweets. It’s women talking about women’s rights that does it. Which is why it’s Mumsnet in the firing line and not datalounge or kiwifarms.

There will be notable absences on this thread from people who are usually dead keen on rooting out transphobia...

OvaHere · 01/07/2020 20:20

Yes. The distinct lack of care from loud transactivists over this compared to the reaction to JKR's mild tweets is very telling.

They aren't actually interested in transphobia just the ability to attack and erase women and our rights.

JemimaShore · 01/07/2020 20:21

It’s probably worth another airing of the observation that it’s not actual transphobia that really gets the monitors in a tizzy, such as that displayed by Damians vile tweets. It’s women talking about women’s rights that does it.

Spot on.

ShinyFootball · 01/07/2020 20:31

I don't think he'll apologise and I don't think any of the trans activists will care.

  1. He's a bloke and they don't go after blokes. Kiwi F, and if course the men in real life who actually attack people.
  2. He's on 'their side' so it won't even register
  3. Loads of people have said awful stuff. Harrop and Dr thingy agreeing that you can't view children getting married 'over there' the same as you can 'here'. MB and all that stuff about lesbians. Then all the masses of people using threats of sexual violence'against women who step out of line etc etc. They don't care. Why on earth not?
  4. The treatment of trans people who don't toe the party line is instructive as well

So no. He won't apologise and no one will care.

And it's so depressing as we could have been natural allies. Repressive gender roles and male violence are key issues for feminists.

But there's no discussion, no compromise. So the real issues are something else.

Haveastock · 01/07/2020 20:36

I bet Munroe will forgive him. He’s a gay man and Munroe understands the ‘humour’ and the cruel, cutting, bitchiness that only gay men and drag queens can get away with. Munroe spoke like him once (hairy, barren dyke anyone?) But women saying stuff like that and it’s all suddenly so hurtful and bullying because women are bitches. Except Munroe isn’t. They are a glowing, beautiful Goddess who ‘protects trans children’. The rest of us are supremacist hags always banging on about our wombs and vaginas like they’re an important part of being a woman - how utterly ridiculous!

I’ve met Damian Barr and read Maggie and Me and loved it and liked him. He’s funny and witty and I was disappointed to hear him say what he did. I sort of understood, as I’ve said before, how a gay man would be against a Tory who voted against gay marriage. These Tweets will cause him major discomfort.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 01/07/2020 20:38

@OvaHere

Yes. The distinct lack of care from loud transactivists over this compared to the reaction to JKR's mild tweets is very telling.

They aren't actually interested in transphobia just the ability to attack and erase women and our rights.

True.
JemimaShore · 01/07/2020 20:38

God it makes me sick, never has the misogyny, and the attack on women and women's rights, been so clear Angry

Gets a woman cancelled, GLOATS about it so much, and he's tweeted all that stuff himself!

I notice nobody went after David W either - a MAN with a similar (if not worse) voting record to the Baroness - and had the gall to sign the letter getting rid of her.

Bloody hypocrites.

ValancyRedfern · 01/07/2020 20:42

Just when I thin I couldn't get more angry....

justanotherneighinparadise · 01/07/2020 20:45

It’ll come for them all. We just have to wait.

MondayYogurt · 01/07/2020 20:55

Suggest New Writing South may be interested to know what kind of person they're touting.

newwritingsouth.com/team/damian-barr

[email protected]

As will the Cheltenham Festival, Little Green Pig, Gladstone's Library, and very much Brighton Fringe etc.

uk.linkedin.com/in/damian-barr-3971384

MondayYogurt · 01/07/2020 20:57

And The Big Issue, Soho House, and Sunday Times.

huecryagency.com/ideas/damian-barr-literary-salon/

nauticant · 01/07/2020 20:58

Hahahahaha:

twitter.com/_PinkNews/status/1278412901267771393

nauticant · 01/07/2020 20:59

No, I've been fooled, spoof account. Very good though.

GinUnicorn · 01/07/2020 20:59

Plus the savoy where he hosts his literary salon.

I’m anti cancel culture generally but in this occasion I’m happy to retweet.

MondayYogurt · 01/07/2020 21:05

And Granta Magazine ffs

granta.com/contributor/damian-barr/

Also lol at the comments

GinUnicorn · 01/07/2020 21:13

Damn Damians blocked me!

Highperbolay · 01/07/2020 21:23

He's locked his account - damage control time!

Haveastock · 01/07/2020 21:27

This is all so fucking polarising. Am I just being a female socialised sop for wishing that grown-up conversations could be had about this all? So many people will secretly go ‘oh FGS he’s made jokes about ‘trannies’ leave him be’ (especially in the ‘emerald City’ of Brighton where he now lives after escaping Motherwell) but no, because no one affords that luxury to the people who refuse to adopt the TWAW mantra. And do round and round we go.

And who will think of the children??

I’m actually going insane with it all Confused

Roseburn · 01/07/2020 21:28

two faced little hypocrite.

ShagMeRiggins · 01/07/2020 21:30

He's a bloke and they don't go after blokes.

TRAs went after @Glinner, though. For the record.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 01/07/2020 21:32

Who the hell laughs about another human in such pain that they try to end their life? Sad

OvaHere
They aren't actually interested in transphobia just the ability to attack and erase women and our rights.
This

MondayYogurt · 01/07/2020 21:33

more

ShinyFootball · 01/07/2020 21:56

Yes they did go after glinner.

Exception that proves the rule?

Actually they are going after men a bit more but not so hard and not with all the rape threats.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 01/07/2020 22:04

@Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons

Who the hell laughs about another human in such pain that they try to end their life? Sad

OvaHere
They aren't actually interested in transphobia just the ability to attack and erase women and our rights.
This

It's just so fucking nasty. Self righteous twerp.
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