Meg-John Barker

[CurtainWitcher]

A friend has suggested I read some articles and books by Dr Meg-John Barker to 'cure' my gender criticism.

Has anyone read any of her (?) work, and what did you think?

There's a graphic novel about gender identity I need to look at apparently.

I'd suggest looking at MJ's website for the cheaper alternative than buying anything - if you want to read anything.

MJ has some great thoughts and I've seen MJ (no idea about pronouns - I think MJ is Meg one day and John another, depending on how MJ feels but I may have that wrong) say some very empathic and smart things about women's experiences. However, MJ is fully GC-phobic and an academic who has written texts that outright lie about things like trans women not attacking women (that's in Mad or Bad I think).

Also check out MJ's other half...

Long way of saying, don't waste your time or money.

I’m all for keeping an open mind on the topic, which is always a good thing, and reading all round a topic to make sure you understand all points of view.

I’d make the exception for Meg John though, I’ve tried it and their (they is they, I believe) writing is completely turgid and humourless Famously suggested that being Northern makes women masculine. Arf!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3339137-BACP-Gender-Sexual-and-Relationship-Diversity-by-Dr-Meg-John-Barker

Isn't Meg also the partner if Edward, let's do a consultation about single sex provision but ignore 50% that say no and females not allowed to join the masons even if they are trans men, Lord?

*of

Meg is indeed the partner of Edward Lord, who also happens to be a friend of paedophile-sympathiser Keith Plummer:

twitter.com/edwardlord/status/958632082762321922

Meg John believes northern women are more aggressive than southern women and: ‘It is important not to assume, for example, that being a woman necessarily involves being able to bear children, or having XX sex chromosomes, or breasts."

Meg John is a woman whose adherence to gender ideology means she comes out with very stupid sounding things.

BACP had to withdraw this guide she wrote (although I always wonder why no one reads these things before they get published)

Meg one day and John the other?

What the..?

Why can’t these people just get up, put their jumpers on and just go and have a day?

Jesus.

Let us know how you get on, I’m sure it’ll be enlightening 😏

Might I suggest you ask your friend to watch the videos of Magdalen Berns to cure them of their woke pomposity

Must have two brains then.

Just sharing some thoughts about Meg-John Barker

Meg-John Barker was nominated for an Erotic Award award from long time pro-paedophillia activist Tuppy Owens and blogged about it. It makes for an interesting read, especially the way in which she describes Tuppy as a “sex therapist” rather than a former porn actress, pro-paedophile campaigner and founder of various organisations that connect vulnerable disabled people with dodgy sex workers, all of whom appear to be connected to tantric sex cults.

Meg-John also describes an association with Sue Newsome who she describes as "somebody who is involved in a conference which I’m putting on for COSRT later this year. She is a sex coach, educator and therapist who is also involved with SHADA (the Sex and Disability Alliance) and does very important work in this field.”

Not quite how I would describe Sue Newsome, in fact I could think of a few other more apt descriptions but I will leave it for readers to work things out for themselves.

source:

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In fact it appears that Meg-John won the Erotic Award

This makes for fascinating reading and demonstrates just how well networked in Meg-John Barker is with tantric sex cults and paedophile rights activists

web.archive.org/web/20180816153344/open.edu/openlearn/society/politics-policy-people/society-matters/erotic-award-2013-ous-meg-barker-wins-the-academic-category

Tuppy’s Erotic Awards and Sexual Freedom Awards are worthy of further scrutiny.

A brief perusal of the other recipients of the Sexual Freedom awards and Erotic Awards demonstrate that there are people involved in tantric sex cults, many people who claim to be able to cure vulnerable people from sexual abuse trauma by having sex with them and even someone who co-authored a notorious cultic tome advocating the sexual abuse of children as sacred ceremony. I do not know about all of the recipients and some may merely be sex workers or brainwashed fools or even perfectly wonderful people who do not really understand what the Sexual Freedom Awards are all about.

Meg-John Barker is was also involved in the Explore More summit, an online event featuring lots of sex experts absolutely none of whom are involved in sex cults (sarcasm)
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The Explore More summit is the creation of a Ms Dawn Serra

Interested readers can discover more about here here
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There are many interesting people who Serra claims to be influenced by, just one I would like to draw the attention of readers to is the extremely controversial promoter of multiple personality disorder / dissociative identity disorder (now sometimes referred to as “complex trauma”), Bessel van der Kolk a man who is married to a new age sex worker and who was dismissed from his job for bullying female staff members at the Trauma Centre in Boston. Van der Kolk interests me as he is a node between various sex and yoga cults and mental health professionals who promote conspiracy theories about MK Ultra mind control and satanic ritual abuse.

Which brings me back to the Tavistock, an organisation with a long history of staff who promote bizarre conspiracy theories about satanic ritual abuse but who also have multiple connection to persons involved in sex cults, Meg-John Barker being just one.

Readers should understand that the Tavistock is actually a network of different departments with some good, sane people working in it. Unfortunately there are also many dubious persons working at the Tavi and it is extremely important to take a nuanced perspective when researching this issue.

More to follow when I have a moment

even someone who co-authored a notorious cultic tome advocating the sexual abuse of children as sacred ceremony

For the avoidance of doubt, that person is long time Deer Tribe member Kenneth Ray Stubbs. He also promotes sex work as a sacred tradition.

Stubbs was (c) credited in the notorious Deer Tribe manual

www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=iaimv2ed82hcqeonjho0kt26l7&topic=528.msg3072#msg3072

Hood your posts are amazing. Your brain must be some souped up super computer, or else you have an excellent filing system somewhere.

‘It is important not to assume, for example, that being a woman necessarily involves being able to bear children, or having XX sex chromosomes, or breasts."

I know this isn't an original thought here,or going to get any kind of answer from people who believe the above,but if being a women doesn't necessarily involve the above what does it necessarily involve,ffs?
It's a logical error - concluding that because being a women doesn't necessarily involve all of a group of characteristics it doesn't have to involve any of them.
Bah.

MJB was also a director of the absolutely fascinating (and worthy of intense scrutiny) organisation the College of Sexual and Relationship Therapists that has many connections to the (possibly even more fascinating organisation StopSo)

beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/RmRO4-kF7vzYfIBJEn3pFyd0cN8/appointments

Hood your posts are amazing. Your brain must be some souped up super computer, or else you have an excellent filing system somewhere.

Aw thanks :)

Truth be told I work like a maniac researching this stuff and it just keeps on coming, the amount of data is overwhelming and there is only one of me.

This is why if I have a moment I always like to reply to this kind of thread, as I have zillions of notes and self-written posts / articles.

Sorry, have to go for now, but I have more on MJB :)

"self-written" should read "half-written" doh!

What is not funny is that they are part of the influence on organisations like BACP

a very important point

also COSRT, also other organisations

She co-wrote a book with a transgender-identifying doctor from the Tavistock about how all manner of sexual perversions aren't perverted , or words to that effect.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3402111-The-UKs-gender-doctors

A supposed specialist medical manual that is, not just a pop psychology book - this is a book for doctors meeting possible paedophiles and victims which says that 'sexual ageplay has nothing to do with paedophilia'

Like fuck off you fucking lying bastard scumbag piece of shit paedophile apologist arsehole.

It has a lot to do with paedophilia. Maybe not 100% of the time. But a lot of it

Don't fucking gaslight doctors with your apologist lies you arsehole.

Meg John Barker also presented en event “working with gender diversity” for the highly dubious organisation Confer

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Confer has a long and inglorious history of promoting yoga cults, pseudo-shamanic cults, tantric sex cults and controversial therapists who promote conspiracy theories about satanic ritual abuse (SRA) and the associated disputed diagnosis dissociative identity disorder previously known as multiple personality disorder sometimes now rebranded as complex trauma

Well known promoters of SRA conspiracy theories include but are not limited to:

Dr Gwen Adshead
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Adshead, G. (1994) Looking for clues: A review of the literature on false allegations of sexual abuse in childhood InTreating Survivors of Satanist Abuse, Sinason, V. (ed), London: Routledge, pp57–65.

Remy Aquarone
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Camila Batmanghelidjh
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(Batmanghelidjh is a long time associate of Valerie Sinason)

Dr Doris Brothers
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Dr Alan Corbett (deceased)
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Orit Badouk Epstein
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Professor Onno van der Hart
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Shahnawaz Haque
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Dr Phil Mollon
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Professor Brett Kahr - Academic Consultant to Confer
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Ellert R S Nijenhuis PhD
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Dr Jean Knox
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Graham Music
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Dr Susie Orbach
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Also Confer gives a platform for various “therapists” who claim to be able to release repressed memories of sexual trauma through “body psychotherapy”

e.g.

Shoshi Asheri
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Carmen Joanne Ablack
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Dr Asaf Rolef Ben-Shahar
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Emma Palmer aka Kamalamani
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Also gives a platform to active members / promoters of abusive cults

e.g.

Professor Sat Bir Khalsa
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astute readers will notice that Khalsa is “Director of Research for the Kundalini Research Institute” which, according to its website "KRI is the primary publisher of books and manuals authored by Yogi Bhajan.” so a front for an abusive cult, 3HO, with a long history of allegations of sexual abuses against women and indictments and convictions for racketeering and serious organised crime.

Also worthy of further research

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Confer links of interest

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Barker has also been a speaker at the incredibly interesting organisation Brighton Therapy Partnership

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on a tangent

"Professor" Andrew Samuels, possibly the most influential figure in terms of persuading the Labour party to drink the TRA kool aid is also a speaker at the Brighton Therapy Partnership. The speakers list is very interesting to anyone familiar with SRA promoting / TRA activist networks

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I think your friend may be taking the piss.

Meg and Meg's partner Edward Lord are no friend to women.

Behind the academia, the countless books and the articles, this couple still subscribe to regressive, harmful stereotypes.

Wish we could keep this thread as a sticky hoodathunkit seeing the linkages is concerning