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Berlin to compensate children knowingly placed with paedophiles

48 replies

LeftHandDown · 04/03/2020 13:07

Just come across this in The Times stating that authorities in Berlin knowingly placed foster children with paedophiles between 1969-2003, as 'unruly' and 'feeble-minded' children would benefit from sexual attraction.

I am aware of the in roads PIE made in the UK and evidence of child sex abuse rings have been ignored in this country, but am horrified that the Berlin authorities persisted in knowingly placing children with rapists for over 30 years and zero fucks were given about the children.

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/berlin-to-compensate-victims-of-paedophile-foster-scheme-mnw5bsx35

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Honeybee85 · 04/03/2020 13:08

My jaw just dropped from reading this.

This must be the sickest news I have ever read.

LikeDuhWhatever · 04/03/2020 13:14

I can’t read the whole article because I am not a subsciber but I read enough. It’s sickening. I believe this social scientist was a fucking paedo himself. Sick man.

HareTodayGoonTomorrow · 04/03/2020 13:15

What the uttering fuck?! That's obscene Angry

geojellyfish · 04/03/2020 13:18

What the fuck? That this ever was conceived as an idea is outrageous, but that it took place for so long and was only ended in 2003 is shocking.

allmywhat · 04/03/2020 13:20

2003

i want to type something but what can even be said? Those poor boys.

LeftHandDown · 04/03/2020 15:07

Even after all the boys went through at the time, and continue to be impacted by as adults, it appears the authorities are quibbling about how much compensation the boys are due; which given their ongoing trauma and inability to work doesn't seem excessive.

'The Senate has now agreed in principle to pay them compensation as part of an out-of-court settlement, according to Der Tagesspiegel, a daily newspaper, but there is a dispute over the extent of the damages.

One of the victims’ lawyers is said to have pressed for a lump sum of €100,000 and a monthly pension of €2,500, backdated to the end of the fostering arrangement in 2001.

The city of Berlin has said that it is working on a “solution that would satisfy the interests of those affected”.'

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Judashascomeintosomemoney · 04/03/2020 15:11

I cannot believe what I have just read. There are few things left in the world that humans do to each that truly shock, but that’s certainly one of them.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 04/03/2020 15:43

What the actual fuck. Angry

BustedWench · 04/03/2020 15:49

Wish I could read the whole article. Those poor children (now adults) , they deserve all the money for what they have been put through

LeftHandDown · 04/03/2020 16:01

First part of article, ends with the paras above (sorry can't do share token for some reason)

Two victims of a bizarre social experiment in which Berlin’s city hall deliberately placed troubled children in the care of paedophiles are on the brink of winning compensation.

From 1969 to 2003 the authorities put at least nine boys in the hands of convicted sex offenders on the advice of a disgraced social scientist.

The idea behind the Kentler experiment — named after Helmut Kentler, an academic who argued that paedophilia could have “positive consequences” — was that unruly and “feeble-minded” children would benefit from adult sexual attention.

In the late 1960s Kentler persuaded West Berlin’s ruling Senate that the homeless boys would jump at the opportunity to be fostered by paedophiles and would be “head over heels in love” with their new father figures.

One of the boys, referred to in legal proceedings as Marco, had been taken into care after suffering physical abuse at the hands of his father. In 1989, aged six, he was placed with a convicted child abuser. A year later this foster father, Fritz H, began going into Marco’s room for a “cuddle”.
Marco has claimed in an interview with Der Spiegel, a weekly news magazine, that for ten years he was repeatedly beaten and raped by Fritz H, until he reached the threshold of adulthood and fought back.

Another of Fritz H’s victims, given the cover name Sven, was abandoned by his parents at the age of seven and contracted hepatitis B on the streets of Berlin. In 1990 he was entrusted to the paedophile and suffered repeated sexual assaults.

Fritz H is alleged to have recorded the abuses on a video camera and kept the boys isolated from the outside world in his flat.

From 1974 Fritz H, who has since died, fostered four other boys. One of them, who is referred to as Sascha, lived in the flat at the same time as Sven and Marco. Sascha was allegedly neglected and denied medical care, leading to his death in 2003 from pneumonia.

It is not known how many children were subjected to the Kentler experiment. Four years ago the Berlin Senate commissioned an inquiry into the scandal from experts at Göttingen University. Their final report has yet to be published.

At the beginning of the experiment, Kentler, who died in 2008, was regarded as one of Germany’s foremost sexologists and often appeared as an expert witness in court cases. He boasted of having secured the acquittal of several alleged paedophiles.

In 1970 he urged the Bundestag to decriminalise sex between adults and children in West Germany, arguing that teenagers were “almost always more seriously damaged” by the prosecution of their abusers than by the abuse itself.

Nine years later he published a book in which it was claimed that numerous scientific studies had produced no evidence of paedophilia’s negative effects.

Marco and Sven were so badly scarred by their ordeal that they have been unable to work. In 2016 they brought a formal complaint to the city authorities.

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Binterested · 04/03/2020 17:37

Good god. Those poor children.

We are just going to have to keep fighting this battle forever, aren’t we?

Lordfrontpaw · 04/03/2020 17:38

😢

Stripeyshirts2450 · 04/03/2020 17:40

I can't read this :( I just don't understand why it still happens.

jadefinch · 04/03/2020 17:42

That's one of the most extraordinary stories I've ever read.

I can't comprehend that it was still going on in 2003.

Winterlife · 04/03/2020 17:45

Horrific. I have no doubt Kentler was a pedophile.

Dyrne · 04/03/2020 17:45

What the actual fuck did I just read?

What kind of fucked up people thought this was at all OK? Why was this man (a clear paedophile himself) allowed to be so influential? Why did it take until Two thousand and fucking three for this to be stopped?

Jesus wept.

Those poor victims deserve all the compensation they can get.

HerRoyalCarbyLess · 04/03/2020 17:46

My god. Those poor children Sad

TheVanguardSix · 04/03/2020 17:51

Holy Mary. Words fail me.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 04/03/2020 18:31

I can't comprehend that it was still going on in 2003.

It's still going on now and if people like Stephen Whittle get their way with their queer theory in the classroom it's going to be the future.

Packingsoapandwater · 04/03/2020 18:58

What the absolute fuck?!

How stupid would you have to be to sit and listen to Kentler's arguments and then think... "Oh yes, it sounds like a good idea to assign vulnerable children to known paedophile carers. Let's do it."

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 04/03/2020 19:03

How stupid

It's not stupidity, it's a deliberate and sinister selling of children.

MoltenLasagne · 04/03/2020 19:11

I genuinely cannot comprehend that there wasn't a soul who didn't hear about this for 30 years who managed to put a stop to it. What the fucking hell was going on in Berlin if this was not instantly shut down?

Binterested · 04/03/2020 19:16

Could have been like today. People afraid to say no to a charismatic cult for fear of being called a bigot or losing their job or their influence.

nocoolnamesleft · 04/03/2020 19:44

Horrifying.

Lordfrontpaw · 04/03/2020 19:44

There will have people living in hell with this knowledge and noone listening to or believing them - also some who possibly deserve it (the ones who didn’t want to loose their job or promotion so kept quiet).

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