Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans woman wanting their scrotum waxed 🤷🏼‍♀️

54 replies

Soontobe60 · 24/10/2019 16:18

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/trans-woman-who-sued-beauty-20708259?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mirror_main

If you're a beauty therapist and a trans woman came to you to ask for their scrotum to be waxed, what would your response be? More to the point, would you think refusing to do so is in breach of human rights? Fortunately, a court in Vancouver has seen common sense and ruled that it absolutely does not. No one has the 'right' to have their genitals waxed, whilst women that refuse to perform the procedure are well within their rights.

OP posts:
highheelsandwitcheshats · 24/10/2019 16:22

That's not even the issue here. The issue for me is her determination to punish a group of people she considered hostile to trans rights.
Because clearly fighting bigotry with bigotry is the way to go. I despair.

Blahdyblahblahblah · 24/10/2019 16:24

Good enough, hopefully he’s left in a lot of debt after he has to pay court costs. The vindictive smear campaign even put one salon out of business.

RoyalCorgi · 24/10/2019 16:28

That's a great piece, though. Doesn't pull any punches.

Whatwouldbigfatfannydo · 24/10/2019 16:35

Man wanting his scrotum waxed.

Women do not have male genitalia.

The man mentioned is also a predator who posted repeatedly about approaching young girls in toilets to ask them if they need help inserting tampon.

Soontobe60 · 24/10/2019 16:40

@highheelsandwitcheshats
You're right, and I'm so pleased that the decision to make him pay the costs and further money to some of his 'victims' was made. Common sense prevailed. What a vile person, with very vile intentions.

OP posts:
Whatwouldbigfatfannydo · 24/10/2019 16:40

@highheelsandwitcheshats

The issue is that men are taking women to court to remove their right to refuse consent to touch male genitals.
The women in question were not bigoted in the slightest.
It is not a crime to believe that women have autonomy over whose genitals they consent (or refuse) to touch.

AryaStarkWolf · 24/10/2019 16:41

Welcoming the verdict Jay Cameron, a lawyer for the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms (JCCF) which represented five of the respondents in Vancouver targeted by Yaniv, said: “Self-identification does not erase physiological reality."

So why is Rachel McKinnon allowed to race against women then?

Soontobe60 · 24/10/2019 16:44

@Whatwouldbigfatfannydo

Is a trans woman a man who is identifying as a woman or a woman identifying as a man? What's the correct terminology to use? It's a minefield!🤦🏼‍♀️

OP posts:
AlexaAmbidextra · 24/10/2019 16:47

Welcoming the verdict Jay Cameron, a lawyer for the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms (JCCF) which represented five of the respondents in Vancouver targeted by Yaniv, said: “Self-identification does not erase physiological reality."

What a marvellously succinct statement that absolutely says it all. And this is the reality that lets Rachel McKinnon win races over women. A lifetime of testosterone.

AryaStarkWolf · 24/10/2019 16:49

Is a trans woman a man who is identifying as a woman or a woman identifying as a man? What's the correct terminology to use? It's a minefield!
A Transwomen is a man who identifies as a woman yeah

Soontobe60 · 24/10/2019 16:50

Self-identification does not erase physiological reality."

I might make myself a badge!

OP posts:
tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 24/10/2019 16:56

There's probably a sticker for that Wink

Whatwouldbigfatfannydo · 24/10/2019 16:57

Fo those who buy into the farce, trans woman means a man who identifies as a woman. A trans man is a woman who identifies as a man.

I'll probably get deleted for elaborating but I believe a biological man is a man regardless of self-id. Likewise with biological women. You cannot change sex, it's something that's determined at a chromosomal level. It's not a 'feeling'.

Women are entitled to sex segregated spaces to keep them safe from men who cause them harm. Men being invited into these spaces negates this and shows women that our wellbeing is worth nothing so the masses can pander to the whims of men.

No man can tell a woman how it 'feels' to be one. Being told that is the biggest slap in the face I've come across in a while to be honest Hmm

CoolcoolcoolcoolcoolNoDoubt · 24/10/2019 16:58

I can't believe this is the world we live in now.. people really hate women! It scares the shit out of me.

BarbaraStrozzi · 24/10/2019 17:23

My oh my what a glorious selection of Yaniv's selfies the Mirror has chosen to illustrate that article.

anxiouswaiting · 24/10/2019 17:29

Not read link but I read about this care before. I don't understand why it even got as far as it did. Waxing a scrotum is a different skill to waxing a vulva is it not? Had the beauty therapist gone ahead and done it without correct training surely that invalidates insurance?

MarianaMoatedGrange · 24/10/2019 17:29

Stunning and brave selfies Wink

highheelsandwitcheshats · 24/10/2019 18:47

The women in question were not bigoted in the slightest.
It is not a crime to believe that women have autonomy over whose genitals they consent (or refuse) to touch

I didn't say they were. The reason he chose these particular women was because he believed them to be part of a culture that were transphobic. So he targeted them purely for that.
My point about bigotry was despairing of his attitude that the correct way to fight (perceived) bigotry was by attacking a different minority group - more bigatory.

highheelsandwitcheshats · 24/10/2019 18:49

The comment about the tampons made me feel nauseous.

One person, doing so much to ostracise the trans community even more. What a fucking idiot.

WrathofSIxFootSIxElfKlop · 24/10/2019 18:52

I would wax his scotum with pleasure.

I have never used wax to remove hair before but I am a slow learner willing to learn.
Slowly.

JasBBGG · 24/10/2019 18:53

Literally came on to see if this was here.

🙌🏻

Quote of the year from that judge.

WrathofSIxFootSIxElfKlop · 24/10/2019 18:54

So, what do I need to do first?

Karabair · 24/10/2019 19:08

"wax her scrotum"

Never gets old

FWRLurker · 24/10/2019 19:17

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Waterandlemonjuice · 24/10/2019 19:19

Good decision from that judge