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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Non binary 12 year old on Today Program

84 replies

PancakeAndKeith · 10/10/2019 07:55

Quick post as I’m getting ready for work.

Boy said he was non binary and talked about how he didn’t feel that he fitted in.
However everyone referred to him by a male name and called him him.

It struck me that he was a very articulate and sensitive boy who was never going to fit in with the standard idea of masculinity. I wonder if he is struggling and the more gendered world of high school.

It’s a shame that children like him feel that they have to tie themselves in knots just because they don’t fit in with a stereotype.

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squishee · 10/10/2019 16:01

And now it's dogs? Honestly.

squishee · 10/10/2019 16:19

Anyway, to get back on-topic. As per a PP, how is it better to reject the binary reality so much as to become "trinary"?

BarbaraStrozzi · 10/10/2019 16:33

"whatabattery". [grin,]

Coffeeandchocolate9 · 10/10/2019 18:52

I asked my dog and she said despite a hysterectomy she's definitely still female. What a bitch.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 10/10/2019 19:16

and a body without breasts (a female secondary sexual characteristic) is not "non-binary" - it's seeing a male body as the default or neutral or the "universal."

Very good point "Mouthy*, hadn't occurred to me before.

It disturbed me in the Scottish census committee they had ths Scottish Trans Alliance non-binary (female) Vic Valentine in, and when someone (maybe Joan) mentioned that the data would be used for planning healthcare etc, Vic casually mentioned that lots of non-binary females probably have hysterectomies so sex data wasn't relevant for cervical screening numbers. Hmm

Anyway... Stephanie was fantastic. Flawless. She came across as very caring and compassionate, and got all her points in clearly; it was great NR allowed her to speak.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 10/10/2019 19:23

Just listened to this on catch up and yes, Stephanie was outstanding.
Clear, knowledgeable and respectful about children. She really knows her stuff.

MrGHardy · 10/10/2019 20:19

"Boy said he was non binary and talked about how he didn’t feel that he fitted in."

NB is basically saying "my personality doesn't fit stereotypes of boy/girl".

That is all it is. The world is going crazy.

WineTastingNotTimeWasting · 10/10/2019 23:17

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Durgasarrow · 10/10/2019 23:44

He can call himself whatever he wants, that doesn't make him something that doesn't fucking exist. Grown-ups shouldn't give airtime to children making shit up.

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