Blaire White vs. Jessica Yaniv Monday August 5th at 9pm

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I thought I'd start a new thread as the other one doesn't have a clear title.

Yaniv has started with the trash talk already...

This won't work. I think Blaire can definitely hold their own.

How is this debate going to work. Don't they hold the same view point just one is further along the spectrum. What's the point.

They both self ID but one claims to be intersex (well sort of, intersex isn't having both a vagina and a penis, how would that even all fit down there?) but I think Blair doesn't take the label of 'woman'.

Blair will own JY and I'm really pleased that someone in the trans community is doing this as i think Blair will call out JY on the predatory behaviour.

Blair White does not deny biology and isn't ashamed of being born male. Blair is a Trump supporter and a big believer in personal responsibility, they are against children transitioning. I think it will be interesting but Blair's research isn't as thorough as Rose of Dawn so I'm not sure if they appreciate how batshit JY is.

To be fair to the trans community Miranda Yardley was one of the first people to call the predator out. When it was litigation and bans a go go.

Yaviv is weirdly getting off massively on all this now . He's clearly unwell.

There's a bigger picture of:
How does someone as clearly 👀 as Yaviv manage to abuse the system to persecute and abuse others. How does Canada stop it happening again? Where are the checks and balances? I hope White highlights that.

All sunshine is good though, I guess.

When is this our time?

Of course Kat how could I have forgotten about Miranda's piece on JY! Sorry Miranda!

Two male born individuals deciding which one of them is more of a woman.

It's 14.00 Pacific time which the interweb tells me is 22.00 GMT.

JY is on Twitter claiming to be "hotter" than BW.

If anything proclaims the pervy slug's delusions, it's that tweet.

The delusion.

I know, Datun.

The irony.

How does someone as clearly 👀 as Yaviv manage to abuse the system to persecute and abuse others. How does Canada stop it happening again? Where are the checks and balances? I hope White highlights that.

I've been thinking about this. Part of it clearly is that the processes around the human rights tribunal aren't adequate. I'm finding that element interesting because I remember when these kinds of tribunals and processes were new, there were people who argued that they would cause problems. Mostly they were dismissed and seen as trying to protect the establishment. I've been rethinking a lot of the arguments around how we deal with, even define, rights, how we talk about and legislate around hate crimes, and that sort of thing, as a result. A lot of it seems to have had similar assumptions behind it.

However the other element is that it can be very difficult to have someone who is mentally ill dealt with by the medical community if they don't want to be, and since JY's family doesn't seem to see the issue there really is no one else.

What kind of mental illness could JY have?

depends on how you define mental illness, Awning.

Being trans is not a mental illness ( I defer to the greater knowledge of the Royal College Of Psychiatrists dysphoria surely, must be, a disorder?)

Being a paedophile is not a mental illness.

Being overindulged by your batshit mother isn't either.

Willing to bet he's not ill, but, has a personality disorder.

Maybe it's best to ignore it.

White is a libertarian right of centreist. She believes that she is a woman- but she does not think she has the right to use women’s spaces. “Not all tracks are for me”

Two male born individuals deciding which one of them is more of a woman.

She believes that she is a woman

I thought she was happy to be referred to as a transwoman? She accepts she is biologically male.

I think BW believes in the “lady brain”? At least she did a few years ago, when I watched one of their videos.

Datun - Yup don’t you just love it

Happy to be corrected but aren't there videos of Blair on line using female spaces.

Can we just take a moment to appreciate the most apt "pervy slug" phrase.

“Happy to be corrected but aren't there videos of Blair on line using female spaces.”
I don’t think so. But I could easily be wrong.

I always got the impression from BW that she was an out and proud transsexual, as in, doesn't think she's a woman. In fact quite enjoys being known as z transwoman.
She did a video "Guess which one if us is trans!" Thingy with a normal looking woman and most people couldn't guess.
I must say the work BW has paid for is of the highest standard. I'm happy that she isn't going around demanding to be called a woman, and BW doesn't seem to give a shit if she's misgendered (I'm trying not to BC banhammer of course).

Unlike JY who is frankly batshit.

Awning10
What kind of mental illness could JY have?
They are a predatory narcissist. Can't be anyone more obviously in love with their own reflection, who cares nothing for other people. I believe NPD is in the DSM-V under personality disorders.