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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

25 year old man stabs 13 year old pregnant "lover"

50 replies

Gingerkittykat · 05/07/2019 03:33

I don't normally touch the express with a barge poll but a story was linked on my Fb feed. The headline was "Girl,13, stabbed to death after she told lover, 25, she was pregnant"

The headline has since been changed to "'Man, 25 stabbed girl, 13, to death after she told him she was was pregnant with his baby'"

The articles talks about their secret year long relationship.

lets change that, pregnant 13 year old stabbed by man who groomed and abused her for a year.

And people say there is no need for feminism any more.

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1143611/lucy-mchugh-stephen-nicholson-murder-stabbing-lovers-pregant?fbclid=IwAR1irfMyDX-sGideMWRG2agaNSz9ZQZzXEbLxbhRsRRmocOiMMjUjwG0nXc

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GCAcademic · 05/07/2019 06:34

I’m pretty sure that the BBC was reporting this story in similar terms, until they were pulled up on it. It’s appalling. It feels like there’s a concerted attack on safeguarding at the moment.

NeatFreakMama · 05/07/2019 06:38

What's the issue, the reference to 'lover'?

MoleSmokes · 05/07/2019 07:19

What's the issue, the reference to 'lover'?

Damned right that is the "issue".

Any affection she might have felt for her rapist was the result of grooming by a paedophile.

She was too young to consent to sex, the relationship was not therefore consensual so he was not her "lover" and they were not in a "relationship".

DpWm · 05/07/2019 07:33

A paedophile who stabbed her to death carrying his own baby because that's how much he loved her.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 05/07/2019 07:36

Surely that’s ‘paedophile’? Is he being charged for murder and paedophilia?

MangoesAreMyFavourite · 05/07/2019 07:36

Girl,13, stabbed to death after she told lover, 25, she was pregnant" - silly girl could have gotten herself stabbed anywhere and who is this mysterious 'lover' in the shadows?

In the second one, "'Man, 25 stabbed girl, 13, to death after she told him she was was pregnant with his baby'" the murderer is front and centre but his abuse is still hidden.

Ereshkigal · 05/07/2019 08:11

AFAIK this guy is a serial predator who's also groomed and assaulted other girls. There's nothing "loving" about it.

Dionn · 05/07/2019 08:21

The whole thing is sickening and makes me fear for girls and womens safety. How does a thirteen year old have a lover of 25? And what kind of educated (or any other tbh) person does not see paedophilia when presented with such a dynamic? Wrong wrong wrong and inexcusable

boatyardblues · 05/07/2019 08:23

The baby was irrefutable genetic evidence of statutory rape. His motive couldn’t be more transparent.

FormerMediocreMale · 05/07/2019 08:24

Disgusting predatory paedophile murdered that poor child. Angry

There are times when I think we are too lenient on criminals - this is one of them.

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 05/07/2019 08:24

”Paedophile stabbed child rape victim after she told him she was pregnant”

HandsOffMyRights · 05/07/2019 08:33

That's correct Mum.

I'm so disgusted by the normalisation of paedophilia. The MSM is complicit in this. To the point where we have posters questioning what the issue is. And that's the intention.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 05/07/2019 08:35

Paedophile stabbed child rape victim after she told him she was pregnant”

Why this wasn’t the headline is beyond me. What the hell is wrong with everyone? Are they so sick they can’t fucking see what they’re writing? 13 ffs.

Ereshkigal · 05/07/2019 08:42

It's only automatically considered rape for children 12 and under, if the child "consented". It's still a very serious criminal sex offence up to 16. So I think "predator" or "grooming" or paedophile would have been appropriate.

Erythronium · 05/07/2019 08:47

She was twelve when he allegedly started raping her.

I just saw the author of Titania McGrath on a video posted on another thread claiming that "civilised" people are against rape. It simply isn't true. There's always another way to reframe it or minimise it, or simply deny it.

Rest in peace, Lucy McHugh.

Ereshkigal · 05/07/2019 08:49

Then yes, they should have put the words "rape" in the headline.

Ereshkigal · 05/07/2019 08:49

Then yes, they should have put the words "rape" in the headline.

StealthPolarBear · 05/07/2019 08:52

So they'd been 'together' a year, presumably since she was twelve.

LangCleg · 05/07/2019 09:07

It's only automatically considered rape for children 12 and under, if the child "consented". It's still a very serious criminal sex offence up to 16. So I think "predator" or "grooming" or paedophile would have been appropriate.

Yes. It would have to be something like...

PREDATORY PAEDOPHILE STABBED HIS GROOMING VICTIM WHEN SHE TOLD HIM SHE WAS PREGNANT

LangCleg · 05/07/2019 09:07

Ah, sorry. Just saw She was twelve when he allegedly started raping her.

MenuPlant · 05/07/2019 09:29

Yes

Sex offender stabs pregnant child victim to death

Or something

Lover ffs

What is wrong with the press

Oliversmumsarmy · 05/07/2019 09:49

What's the issue, the reference to 'lover

At 13 she would have been too young to be anyone’s lover.

Michelleoftheresistance · 05/07/2019 10:45

Paedophile murdered his long term child victim when he discovered he'd got her pregnant.

Sexist bloody press still busy putting the best interests and image and feelings of men first at the expense of a murdered and sexually abused child because of her having a vagina, and demonstrating yet again that in modern UK in 2019, if you have a penis you are far more important and worthy of respect and consideration than vagina havers.

DpWm · 05/07/2019 10:51

Ben Mitchell.

I'll remember you and that headline you printed.

DuMondeB · 05/07/2019 11:09

Fucking hell.

My internal mantra is ‘be more Nan’ - ie, cut through the bollocks PoMo waffle and take no shit, chase creepy fuckers away with broom when required.

Nan says ‘Known paedo rapes, impregnates and murders girl, 12’