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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Madigan's Latest Targets

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dillydallyXX · 08/05/2019 16:19

I was in two minds whether to open this thread, because often posts end up being deleted, but I decided (rightly or wrongly) to do so.

From telling Maya to "fck off" and then repeatedly, over and over again, telling people how they had told her to "fck off" it looks like Madigan will now be going for Joanna Cherry. Apparently, she has been "transphobic".

Why can we never simply have a calm, reasoned debate about this?
Any time anyone raises a point of view, in the mildest way, that does not subscribe fully to this rigid trans dogma they are vilified and attacked in an uber-aggressive way. It is bullying and everyone is fearful of voicing an opinion. I want to use the word "sinister" about this - because I feel it is sinister, to stifle debate.

I genuinely do not understand how somebody like Madigan has been allowed to consistently attack women in this way. They seem to have protected status as being "trans" - Madigan knows this, so they just keep on being vicious.

If anybody does want to post, please make sure it is not offensive. Because often there has been interesting points that have then disappeared because of a wrong word or phrase, or another post that was a bit OTT makes the whole thing go.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 08/05/2019 21:22

They are like Tinkerbell, when you stop clapping along they’ll become very small then go away.

Yes indeed. The Tinkerbell of Twitter just can't bear being ignored.

Lily is a fish in a very small aquarium, I try not to press my nose up against the glass too often. Leave Lily swimming around in there surrounded by gormless guppies.

Being trans was cool for a while for the young folk. I do believe it's becoming less so. The young folk will move on to something else. Lily will have to try to reinvent Lilyself ere long. But Lily is too stupid to realise this.

AlwaysTawnyOwl · 08/05/2019 23:41

I’ve never heard of Lily Madigan apart from on mumsnet. I think they should be denied the oxygen of publicity.

SarahPickles · 09/05/2019 16:46

A woman has set herself up as an apologist for Lily's filthy abusive tweets. And guess what? It's all women's fault. Lily is only a child and below the age of twitter responsibilty!

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SarahPickles · 09/05/2019 16:47

Stephanie Dale is wrong. Lily does not get criticised "for who she is", but for the things she tweets and says.

Ereshkigal · 09/05/2019 16:49

Perhaps a public role isn't for Lily, then, if Lily can't manage it without posting abuse.

dillydallyXX · 09/05/2019 20:13

Yes but a public profile is what Madigan craves - it's their raison d'etre. They call themselves an "agitator", and delight in stirring up trouble.

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2rebecca · 09/05/2019 21:01

I agree that young people do seem less trans enamoured than they were. I think more critical stuff in the media, parents, teachers and GPs being more suspicious of Mermaids etc, I am Jazz's genital op going pear shaped means it is less cool and edgy than it was. Our GP practice hasn't had anyone wanting referred recently. 2 years ago seemed to be the peak. People are starting to engage their brains. I don't think Lily ever had any ops so Lily may get fed up of a life of cosplay

barelove · 09/05/2019 21:14

Intimidation of women by those with different viewpoints. Some things don't change, although it usually comes from men not a woman.

Errm, hate to break it to you but... Hmm

Genderfreelass · 09/05/2019 21:25

Joanna Cherry is great 😊 her and Joan McAlpine have me actually considering voting SNP - not for euro election but local and national.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 10/05/2019 09:36

I don't understand why Madigan hasn't been disciplined by Labour and reminded of their place/status within internal party structure, given the numerous attacks on not only peer low-level officials but actual deselection attempts towards MPs. The extension of these involving a prominent, highly respected member of another party (and a party that Labour may need help from in a coalition) should really result in expulsion. Instead, there's mollycoddling and twitter blocking of anyone who raises concerns as if that means the problem will go away when in actual fact it makes it much, much worse.

dillydallyXX · 10/05/2019 12:59

Because Madigan has very cleverly played the victim card. As a "trans" person they are accorded victim status; they are oppressed, etc, so they are treated with kid gloves.

Madigan knows this. That's why they also say they are disabled, mentally ill, working class, a woman, etc.

Madigan can do at liberty to others whatever they want - but the slightest criticism of themselves is called an attack that immediately causes mental distress and harm. Once you realise the tactics, it all makes sense and it is all very very predictable.

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SocksKnitter · 10/05/2019 22:54

SarahPickles judging from Stephanie Dale's Twitter bio and pinned tweet, Stephanie is also trans, so the support is to be expected. It's all so predictable, even the nastiness towards women.

sackrifice · 11/05/2019 12:10

I take it we can all now refer to Madigan as a man after Madigan outed himself as male?

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 11/05/2019 13:59

Now thats what you call a Freudian slip!

SocksKnitter · 11/05/2019 14:13

Oops! Grin

dillydallyXX · 11/05/2019 14:24

And what a Freudian slip!

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 11/05/2019 14:37

Its a biggie dilly

Genderfreelass · 11/05/2019 17:14

Sackrifice 😂😂😂

theOtherPamAyres · 17/06/2019 17:41

17/06/2019

A young lesbian Labour activist spurned Madigan's advances and suffered the consequences.

Because she is not into penises she was ostracised, bullied and shamed and had to to leave her local constituency party. Madigan wrote a revenge article on Medium claiming to be the victim of her transphobia.

Someone took issue with Madigan's interpretation of events and reframed them as an example of a narcissism:

Your mindset is no different from all the young, horny entitled males who gets angry when a woman rejects their sexual advances. You are contributing to rape culture by taking revenge on a girl for not fancying you. You aren't so different from the men who upload revenge porn when their girlfriend leaves them. Your mindset is the same: revenge for rejection.

twitter.com/TriptychTwins/status/1140640249628045313

Ereshkigal · 17/06/2019 19:34

Yes I saw that on Twitter Pam, and read Madigan's Medium article earlier. Awful.

NotAtMyAge · 17/06/2019 20:40

Just read the truly terrible Medium article, but the comment from which you quoted has already been removed.

Doyoumind · 17/06/2019 21:07

I glanced at the article but it was the usual narcissistic nonsense. I've also seen the tweets where the accused tells her own story. Not surprisingly it confirms what an unpleasant individual LM has been towards this woman.

LizzieSiddal · 17/06/2019 21:18

That poor young women.

LM is a narcissistic bully, I wonder how long it will take for LM to proclaim they are taking a Twitter Break for the sake of their mental health, deleting all their Tweets and 3 days later, reappearing 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....

Fallingirl · 17/06/2019 22:47

Someone quoted the full comment on Posie’s FB wall:

“ I have looked into the events leading up to this article and have read not just your side, but the other side, to get a balanced view.
I can therefore translate this pseudo-political claptrap into plain English.
A young lesbian at your uni and halls broke up from her LT girlfriend and you made advances. She is not attracted to males (the clue is in the word “lesbian”) and so, as politely as possible, she turned you down.
In response, you threw a tantrum, went off in a huff, blocked her, and then took to social media and even wrote this revenge article on Medium in order to “shame” her, by pretending she is “transphobic”. She is nothing of the sort.
You are a vicious, narcissistic bully who pretends to be a victim.
Your mindset is no different from all the many young, horny, entitled males who get angry when a woman rejects their sexual advances. You are contributing to rape culture by taking revenge on a girl for not fancying you. You aren’t so different from the men who upload revenge porn when their girlfriend leaves them. Your mindset is the same: revenge for rejection.
This young lady — your victim — is already struggling to cope with the stresses of life at uni, lving far from home, being a lesbian, breaking up from the most important relationship of her life, mending her broken heart, and trying to walk the tightrope between being seen as “woke” and “trans-accepting” whilst still retaining her boundaries as a lesbian — i.e. she does not want sex with men.
You have inflicted additional, quite unecessary stress upon this very decent young woman, causing her to have extreme anxiety about running into you at halls or uni and she has even resigned her political position to avoid you.
Instead of being ashamed, instead of apologising and leaving her alone, you have written a spiteful, twisted, “poor little me” article attacking — her even though she is 100% innocent of any wrong-doing.
All you care about is yourself. Your output is nothing but “me, me, me”. Even if you were a woman, she would not want to be in a relationship with someone so utterly entitled and self centred, someone who spreads the details of his private life across social media without any shame, without any care for who you might be hurting.
I repeat: you are a vicious, narcissistic bully who pretends to be a victim. You are 22 next birthday and it’s time you manned up and started behaving like a grown up not a spiteful child.
I shall try to send the poor girl a message of support.“

Lesbophobic, misogynyst cotton-ceiling bullying, it seems.

Don’t you get the impression the whole political/friendship group around Madigan, is a nasty little vipers nest?

littlbrowndog · 17/06/2019 22:55

Yeah it is

And yeah madigan is the tinker bell of twitter
Fuck that made me laugh
Tinkerbell of twitter

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