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UKIP candidate Carl Benjamin

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NanooCov · 07/05/2019 15:36

I don't know why I'm surprised that this monstrosity is not in the slightest bit ashamed of himself but Jesus suffering Christ, how the hell can this be excused as "satire" and "humour". Benjamin’s remarks would be unacceptable "down the pub", on Twitter or at the hustings. Rape jokes are never funny. No exceptions.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-48185348

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LizzieSiddal · 08/05/2019 08:47

I feel so sorry for Jess, though I’m pleased about the publicity this had received. Hopefully the police investigation will result in a prosecution.

PerkingFaintly · 08/05/2019 08:54

Oh I missed Joanna Cherry. Just found that hearing and off to watch it.

parliamentlive.tv/event/index/0364bfc3-5adc-4aef-99bd-48c68daacc38?in=15:27:30&out=15:50:30

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 08/05/2019 09:07

What was the Glaswegian comedian who self destructed his career with pretty nasty jokes? He has a beard now.

Cwenthryth · 08/05/2019 09:32

Something I cannot get my ladybrain around with the “wouldn’t even rape” ‘insult’ is - do these men think that “I would rape” is some kind of compliment? That women are all desperate for an appraisal of our fuckability that the arsewipe in question would violently sexually assault us?

I suspect these men literally cannot fathom that women care not one tiny bit what their opinion of them is. That they are render themselves entirely irrelevant to us.

Cwenthryth · 08/05/2019 09:34

Random ‘are’ there, don’t know where that came from

NanooCov · 08/05/2019 19:01

@OVAgroundWOMBlingfree That twitter thread is a selection of email from Benjamin’s supporters to a female buzzfeed journalist who wrote about the abhorrent treatment of Jess Phillips. Of course there are many idiots on the thread claiming she made the emails up.

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NanooCov · 08/05/2019 19:02

@LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD Frankie Boyle?

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VeryLittleOwl · 08/05/2019 19:56

Yes, probably Frankie Boyle's 'joke' about Katie Price, her husband at the time, Alex Reid, and her son, Harvey.

hipsterfun · 09/05/2019 09:53

Whenever I hear Benjamin going on, I imagine his wife sighing with weary recognition at the Pam Ayres poem, They Should Have Asked My Husband.

GammonNosher · 10/05/2019 00:31

tell you what though that carl benjamin fella sure does hate the trans folks though

ScottishDoll · 10/05/2019 02:17

How does a politician's public threat to a colleague of sexual assault not disqualify him from politics?

It's inexcusable.

lucasthecat · 10/05/2019 04:55

How is it that Carl Benjamin can spout this bile about Rape on twitter on TV at political meetings - and remain an election candidate and apparently unvisited by the police - Contrast that with the rapid arrival of various police forces if you address somebody born with a male body with most/all of it still intact as a He - When they have said the magic spell ‘I am now a Lady’ with the possible consequence of prosecution and being arrested in front of your kids -

MythicalBiologicalFennel · 10/05/2019 05:49

Spot on Lucas

Twitter as usual spreading hate and encouraging violence.

GammonNosher · 10/05/2019 12:10

your boy carlgon actually got punted off twitter for being a big auld bigot and then essentially went into politics to get his twitter account back. if you ask me though the establishment is suppressing carlgon due to his gender critical views

ThePurportedDoctoress · 10/05/2019 12:33

Suppressed, is he, by the establishment? He's standing as a candidate for a major-ish political party.
As for his 'gender critical views', excuse me if I take that with a massive pinch of salt after reading his delightful views on women and feminism.
It would be great if people could stop trying to promote this individual here. He is no friend of women.

“This is what feminism has wrought – a generation of men who do not know what to do, who are being demonised for what they are,” said Benjamin, who uses the name Sargon of Akkad on social media.

“Before your stupid social justice feminist bullshit, it didn’t happen on this scale. It’s crazy – this is a disease of the modern age,” Benjamin said in the 2014 video, recorded after the murder of six people in California that year by a 22-year-old man who said the killings were a response to women rejecting him sexually.

“You are responsible for perpetuating it, by disenfranchising these poor fucking guys who don’t have any options left,” Benjamin said.

GammonNosher · 10/05/2019 12:48

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PerkingFaintly · 10/05/2019 13:10

^^ Uh huh, I've mentioned before that there are people who haven't the least clue what the phrase "gender critical" means, but simply co-opt it to mean "anti-trans".

PITA having to sort through this crap.

To the tossers who do this: "The phrase 'gender critical' isn't some magical incantation that will make women think you're our friend. Especially if you're also busy showing what you really think of us."

lucasthecat · 10/05/2019 14:28

Hello GammonNosher - If you look clearly and carefully at Carl Benjamin - he is not Gender Critical - he’s actually a misogynist and a transphobe - ( a real proper transphobe full of hate and violence) He won’t be silenced because he doesn’t talk facts and common sense - supported by science - oh and he’s a man

GammonNosher · 10/05/2019 17:09

Alright Linda I'm curious and it's always good to be curious so what's the difference between Carlos insisting that sex is a binary that needs to be enforced and like, me, who is gender critical. I know that he's almost universally a bigot but a broken clock is right sometimes ey. Otherwise I'm struggling to understand why his position is so eerily similar to my own on this one issue. Why do you think the trans lobby allows this to go on if he's a big old transphobe? (Incidentally not happy to see you compare gender crit to outright transphobia, quite insulting to the brave people standing up)

FloralBunting · 10/05/2019 17:18

Oh, you're gender critical are you? And what does that mean to you, eh?

GammonNosher · 10/05/2019 17:24

It means I've got legitimate concerns about the threats posed by trans people to women n girls yeah? Chucking out gender doesn't mean men get to appropriate/colonise my victimhood.Just like Carl Benjamin (who happens to be a bigot for other reasons but it's clear you want to tar people with the same brush)

GammonNosher · 10/05/2019 17:25

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Jaxhog · 10/05/2019 17:35

Misogyny is a gateway drug for the far right.

Unfortunately, it comes from all sides - right, left and centre.

GammonNosher · 10/05/2019 17:42

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