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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Murderer serving at least 46 years transferred to women's prison

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PalatineUvula · 04/04/2019 11:14

news.wttw.com/2019/04/03/idoc-transfers-another-transgender-inmate-womens-prison

Andre Patterson was sent to prison the day after his 17th birthday for shooting two people. He killed his cellmate, Kimani Muhammad, in December 2016

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Patterson, now 29, has another 32 years in prison to serve and has now been sent to women's prison.

It's interesting firstly that in the US someone so young can have the 'key thrown away' at such a young age, and not surprising you might want out of your current cage and into a different one.

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SetYourselfOnFire · 23/02/2020 23:12

The prison officials coerced her into saying it was consensual after originally reporting it as assault, because they didn't want to admit how batsh!t crazy and dangerous putting rapists with penises into women's prisons is. Ugh. He did it to multiple women too. His lawyer is saying all the rapes were consensual and the victims are just transphobes.

Every single trans activist who pushed this policy and every single politician who stupidly went along with it? I consider you GUILTY. I hold you responsible.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/02/2020 23:44

It's awful.

Lordfrontpaw · 24/02/2020 07:35

I’ve seen the lawyers twitter and he is a piece of work he really is. I know he’s a lawyer and it’s his job but he he really does spout nonsense...

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 27/02/2020 16:55

There is some detail here

casetext.com/case/monroe-v-baldwin-1

'Dr. Puga testified that one of the inmates was "fairly successful" at the female facility (Id.). The other inmate, Janiah Monroe, stopped taking her hormones and was sexually active (Id.). Dr. Puga talked to the warden and mental health staff at the female facility, who reported the transgender women were not well received (Id. at p. 129). Dr. Puga stated that many women in IDOC's care have been exposed to domestic, physical, or emotional violence, and transgender women sometimes scare the other women (Id. at p. 130). Dr. Puga received information that Monroe threatened staff and other inmates (Id. at pp. 134-35). Women at the facility filed complaints against Monroe under the Prison Rape Elimination Act; some were false but many were legitimate (Id. at p. 130). '

Note the phrasing there that there were 'many' legitimate prison rape complaints against Monroe.

' After transferring to the female facility, Monroe became involved in a sexual relationship with a female inmate (Id. at pp. 210-12). Consensual sexual encounters among inmates at the female facility are not uncommon (Id. at p. 212). The woman Monroe was involved with accused Monroe of sexual assault, but IDOC determined the allegations were false (Id. at pp. 211-12, 221). Monroe believes her accuser was jealous of her friendship with another woman (Id.). Monroe testified her penis is not fully functioning and has not functioned at any time since she was transferred to Logan'

fuck off mate.

'The lawsuit came three days after U.S. District Court Judge Michael Mihm issued an injunction barring the Department of Corrections from moving Monroe to a men's prison without providing 14 days notice to the court and her lawyer and an explanation showing why a transfer is necessary.

The Department of Corrections tried to move Monroe out of Logan last June, about three months after she was moved to the women's prison from Pontiac Correctional Center, ... Monroe says that she was put in a van that made it to the prison gate before turning around. In her statement, Monroe says she was told that the governor's office stepped in to stop a transfer to Pontiac.

"(W)hat happened was, the governor's office called someone at the Department of Corrections and said, 'Don't let this happen,' and it didn't," Mills says. He said he didn't know how the governor's office learned that Monroe was being moved. The governor's office didn't immediately respond to an email from Illinois Times asking about the aborted transfer.

Louis Meyer, attorney for the inmate who says that she was punished for reporting that she'd been raped by Monroe, said that the alleged assault occurred last summer, about a month after prison officials began transfer proceedings that were cut short. "It's going to come down to a jury sizing up the individuals and testing their credibility," Meyer said.

Shortly after the alleged assault, Glen Austin, then Logan Correctional Center warden, testified in a deposition that Monroe had told officials that she had no sexual interest in women.'

Austin described Monroe's time at Logan as "turbulent."

"Multiple tickets, serious infractions, previous PREA (Prison Rape Elimination Act) allegations, inappropriate sexual behavior and a confirmed investigation that substantiated sexual misconduct,"

So just to sum that up:

Janiah Monroe/Andre Patterson was in the van to be moved to male prison.

But billionaire Governor JB Pritzker, billionaire cousin of billionaire trans activist Jennifer Pritzker turned the van around.

A month later, Monroe is said to have raped a woman.

And now there is an injunction keeping him in women's prison despite proven sexual misconduct and a live rape case.

CallofDoodee · 27/02/2020 17:05

What the fuuuuuuckkkk?!

Stuff like this truly shows that no one believes that transwomen are actually women.

I wonder what Owen Jones/Lisa Nandy and Co would think of this. Stuck between their faux feminism and support for rape/sexual assault victims, and their position that questioning the actions of a trans person in any way is transphobic.

I just can't believe this story!

Lordfrontpaw · 27/02/2020 17:11

And in America

Unsafe behind bars: Transgender women on life in a men’s prison
www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/transgender-women-are-nearly-always-incarcerated-men-s-putting-many-n1142436

What about the women in women’s jail? Don’t they count at all - no consideration of their safety or dignity?

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