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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sharron Davies on Victoria Derbyshire 4/3/19

42 replies

FloralBuntingIsObnoxious · 04/03/2019 10:09

Not on yet, article on knife crime on first. Time was this would have been last article to be able to employ the 'run out of time' card.

Let's see how this one goes...

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FloralBuntingIsObnoxious · 04/03/2019 10:24

Here we go. Sharron on video link

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FloralBuntingIsObnoxious · 04/03/2019 10:29

Derbyshire mentions McKinnon. Davies addressing the transphobe accusation. Staying focused.

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TheQueef · 04/03/2019 10:30

Good job Sharron Brew

FloralBuntingIsObnoxious · 04/03/2019 10:30

Trans person Rachel emails that they are deeply hurt by the comments.

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ToeToToe · 04/03/2019 10:31

She's doing good. "We have to be fair and honest". Damn right.

FloralBuntingIsObnoxious · 04/03/2019 10:31

She's gone now. Trans referee gets the last word.

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RockyFlintstone · 04/03/2019 10:31

Rachel's email - stop talking Sharron, you are hurting my feelings.

RockyFlintstone · 04/03/2019 10:32

Argh! Lucy saying that it won't be a problem in the future because kids will transition before puberty.

Victoria: 'Sure'

Shock
CarpetDiem · 04/03/2019 10:32

C'mon Sharron- stand your ground, you are right.

MhairiV · 04/03/2019 10:34

Sharron was great. Very composed, logical and compassionate.

kingfisherblue33 · 04/03/2019 10:35

What was the point of having that stupid bloke on there who couldn't understand that 'woman' and 'transwoman' are not the same thing?? FFS.

FloralBuntingIsObnoxious · 04/03/2019 10:35

Dismisses any advantage. Derbyshire asks if the female athletes are Transphobic.

Trans referee says no, but they need to do more investigation and be more careful.

Says we should be more welcoming.

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RockyFlintstone · 04/03/2019 10:35

Lucy: 'Sharon and Martina need to be careful about what they tweet'.

Lucy is so obviously male, people are just not going to buy this. Peak peak peak.

FloralBuntingIsObnoxious · 04/03/2019 10:36

What a crap article. BBC still too bloody compromised on this to address it properly.

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ToeToToe · 04/03/2019 10:37

I strongly suspect the Olympic Committee have not done lots of research into this.

I suspect they've been bamboozled by TRAs like Rachel McKinnon's "assertions" that transwomen don't have an advantage.When it's quite clear that people who have been though a male puberty have a clear advantage. You only have to look at them!

Sharron Davies on Victoria Derbyshire 4/3/19
beenandgoneandbackagain · 04/03/2019 10:38

"..... transition before puberty"

Not when the general public come to understand what that actually means - a shortened lifetime of a damaging drug regime and infertility.

No parent will support that for their child.

ToeToToe · 04/03/2019 10:39

Lucy's very happy to give away women's sports places - they aren't Lucy's to give away.

zanahoria · 04/03/2019 10:39

Is that the same Lucy who was just on the radio? its not the best medium for transwomen with masculine voices, just adds to the confusion.

ToeToToe · 04/03/2019 10:40

V tired of hearing masculine voices telling me that this doesn't matter Hmm

WrathoftheWorstKlop · 04/03/2019 10:41

Lucy the trans referee actually said "it is so unfair"
Yes Lucy it is unfair.
It is unfair to the whole of women's sport.

FloralBuntingIsObnoxious · 04/03/2019 10:41

I'm not surprised by the unchallenged assertion about pre puberty transition. The Derbyshire programme is an uncritical cheerleader for medically transing children for a start.
But also, it's the most obvious Genderist response to the mountain of evidence that males have advantages over females through the natural changes of puberty. I suspect we will see more of it.

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RockyFlintstone · 04/03/2019 10:42

Lucy's very happy to give away women's sports places - they aren't Lucy's to give away.

This sums it up really doesn't it?

Are there actually any female sportspeople who are actively campaigning for transwomen to compete in women's sports?

WrathoftheWorstKlop · 04/03/2019 10:43

Flowers to Sharron.

MhairiV · 04/03/2019 10:49

@ToeToToe Agreed. I doubt they've done much because if they had, it would have been used to address individual points at every opportunity.

zanahoria · 04/03/2019 11:14

Rockyflintstone

no there aren't, the Guardian publishes headlines like 'Opinion Divided' when there it is retired gold winning Olympians with no pesonal interest versus self interested nomarks.