Scotland says there are only 2 sexes

[BetsyM00]

Would you believe that in 2019 this fact makes the front page of the Herald?:
www.heraldscotland.com/news/17414078.legal-bid-to-allow-scots-to-choose-gender-will-be-rejected/

Also in the Guardian:
www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/07/new-scottish-census-bill-conflates-sex-and-gender-report

and the Times www.thetimes.co.uk/article/non-binary-sex-option-will-not-appear-on-next-census-7d86dks72
I'm hoping some kind soul will provide a share token.

Thanks to the hard work of many women it looks very much like a non-binary option will NOT be added to the mandatory sex question in the 2021 Scottish census. Hurrah!

That's fantastic news....but sadly just the very beginning of the battle to roll back the madness

Wow great news, well done to the campaigners

"EVERYONE HOLD HANDS AND PUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLL."

"EVERYONE KEEP PUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLING. IT’S MOVING."

-Jane Clare Jones The Annals of the Terf Wars
janeclarejones.com/2018/11/13/the-annals-of-the-terf-wars/amp/

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/non-binary-sex-option-will-not-appear-on-next-census-7d86dks72?shareToken=b0d9e8c39dd8045958378b3d0ea2eda3

Glad to see reality returning to Scotland.

And criticism of lack of engagement with women's organizations!

Tbf - all the "deplorables" I know in Glasgow are more than aware of this!

”the way gender identity is used in a bill to change the census “has created confusion” and risks conflating sex with gender identity.

The report says this could undermine the usefulness of the data gathered, particularly in relation to public sector duties to address sex-based discrimination.”

Fuck me! Sanity is breaking out!

Also:

”MSPs also say it the census should continue to ask people a binary question about whether they are male or female and that this should be mandatory.

Members of the committee agree that a question on sexual orientation and a question allowing people to state whether they identify as male, female or non-binary should be in the census, but say answering it should be optional.”

This is so logical that it should be obvious, yet I’m internally cheering as I never expected to be reading it.

In a written submission, four clinicians said: “Biological sex is fixed, and is not changed by hormones or surgery, although external appearance changes.”

Wow!

Poor old Vic. The horror of having to tick female on a form. How will they bear it.

Its unbelievable that it should be such a hard decision isn't it.

How on earth could ticking a box to say you were born Male or female be so controversial.

I'm.glad common sense won

I’m confused as in the article it says it’s to be debated on 28th Feb, so how has it happened already?

This is such a relief. An outbreak of sanity indeed! More of this please

Oh my gosh, this is quite a big deal in the scheme of things isn't it? Something is getting through!

This is different to the Scottish GRA consultation though is it?

That worried me a bit too Mistress. I presume by the way this is being reported, it would be unusual for the debate to overturn the recommendations. I hope the papers have read this correctly.

’restricting the compulsory sex question to male and female answers “means that, once again, non-binary people like myself will not be able to answer the question correctly and honestly”’

restricting the compulsory sex question to male and female answers “means that, once again, non-binary people like myself will be dragged kicking and screaming towards having to recognise reality.

Fixed it for you Vic!

It is separate, Rocky, but the Herald has this:

”Today’s report, which is also likely to have implications for plans to reform the Gender Recognition Act, sees MSPs argue the way gender identity is used in a bill to change the census “has created confusion” and risks conflating sex with gender identity.”

It will be hard to ignore the conclusions that there was insufficient consultation, especially with women’s groups.

Joan McAlpine MSP, I salute you!

‘Transgender people would be advised to select the sex they identify with, as they were in the 2011 census.’

Sex they identify with? WTAF.

I like Susan McVie. Go her.

Much as I’m relieved at the small blip of sanity it does bring us back to ‘there are some ideas so stupid only a very intelligent person could believe in them’. Why was the fact that humans are a sexually diamorphic species up for debate in the first place?

Vic Valentine:

“However we disagree that the compulsory census question asking the person’s sex should be restricted to male and female answers only, because that means that, once again, non-binary people like myself will not be able to answer the question correctly and honestly.”

Some people still seem to be less than clear about the difference between sex and gender.

I thought the definition of woman in Scotland had changed. Was that only for one specific piece of legislation?

Wow. Common sense at last.

Will the SNP let this stand?

Scotland woke up at last? Thank goodness. It was getting a bit weird for a while.

Bugger.
And there was me planning on identifying as an artichoke.
I don't even live in Scotland

Will the SNP let this stand?

The Chair of the census committee is SNP.

Scotland woke up at last?

I won't believe it until it's set in stone.