Jeremy Vine Radio 2 today about 12.30 Bath changing room story

[MrsSnippyPants]

Jeremy Vine Radio 2 today about 12.30
twitter.com/vixfinn/status/1085104786792423424?s=21

I posted this on the relevant thread but didn’t want anyone to miss it.

Listening

Started at 12.40 in case anyone wants to catch up later.

Liz Frazer

Why do these people think we have single sex facilities in the first place?

Grrrrr! Gender and sex being used as synonyms

FFS who is this dreadful woman dismissing women’s concerns?

I’m listening.

"Doesn’t bother me so it’s fine"

Vine hasn't got a clue - "so there wasn't any overt evidence of bad behaviour" - he means by the naked men.
He doesn't seem to realise or most probably doesn't care, that many people, paricularly women do not wish to share a changing room with people of the opposite sex.

‘I don’t really understand why women get so upset about men walking round naked, but men don’t seem to mind about women with their breasts out’

Really Liz? You really don’t?

Woooo! Shout out to Mumsnet

I’m listening too!

That Liz. What a bellend
She don’t mind naked men so neither should rest of us

Vine is treating the whole thing like a joke, he is an absolute disgrace.

Who is this bloody Liz Fraser? She's totally discounting the fact that a complaint was made. Also equating male and female nudity as though females present the same threat to males as males do to females. She's an MRA or ripe for their recruitment. Furious now.

Oh and that Liz. So patronising

Vine is a disgrace Andy. He never gets the point of anything that isn't hard politics. And not always then. Oh still discussing it. Goody.

If a woman wants boundaries she’s wrong.

Vine an idiot

Liz Fraser, what is wrong with you? There is a well established risk to the safety of women and children when they are forced to share facilities with men. In any case, I do not want to see a man (naked or otherwise) in my changing room not because I think he’s necessarily going to rape me but because I have the right to personal privacy and dignity.

Yeah, Vine clearly finds the whole in hilarious. Keeps saying things like "blokes strutting around in the buff", which minimizes the issue.

Oh lol, let’s give points to the men

But the woman who spoke first was great. Used the word sex not gender as vine was using
She really got all the concerns across
Unlike Liz who thinks we have to chill bout naked men 😕😕

Flippin' heck. There's a woman putting the other ide of the case, saying we all need to chill and get used to nakedness. And that there is no problem. It never happens.

I'm much more annoyed by Liz Frazer than JV. You'd think as a woman she might have a bit more empathy with women who've been sexually assaulted/raped. I always assume that women who think like her have never actually been or had to send their children into the situation described and lack the imagination to understand how uncomfortable it may make people feel (heaven help her daughters if she has any).

This is a Times article (which I don't subscribe to) and the first paragraph and title, makes it perfectly obvious the risks which women face when using unisex/communal changing rooms.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/unisex-changing-rooms-put-women-in-danger-8lwbp8kgk