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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Canada: Trans woman sent to women's prison for sexually molesting "her" 3-year-old daughter

42 replies

Vegilante · 30/10/2018 23:51

More male violence attributed to a woman:

www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/10/30/transgender-woman-gets-18-month-sentence-for-sexually-assaulting-daughter.html

Comic relief: the very next story in the scroll-down on this paper's website when I looked at it was headlined, "Modern day witches focus on female empowerment"!

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Badgerthebodger · 30/10/2018 23:56

18 months Sad horrible. That poor girl. Not only has she been sexually abused by her own father, he then decided to fuck with her further by becoming a trans woman. There is no way on earth I believe this man should be in a women’s prison.

This is what we’re fighting against. This is just one of the many reasons why self-ID should not be brought in.

Spasm0dic · 31/10/2018 00:07

Omg. My thoughts go out to the little girl.

FadingMint · 31/10/2018 00:58

Nauseating.

From the report in the link above, I'm getting:

Men look after their own, even when those men are child rapist scum.

*A Québec City transgender parent who sexually assaulted her young daughter will be serving a sentence in a women’s jail after undergoing a sex change between the time of the crime and the conviction."

This man's crimes were committed by the man that he is. No way he is a woman. He is a man who is looking for an easy way out after committing despicable sexual violence on a very young child.

DeRigueurMortis · 31/10/2018 01:13

How the hell do people swallow this?

Really?



wingwarbler · 31/10/2018 01:32

Just awful :(

And can I just draw attention also to the fact that the man has been sentenced to only 18 months for sexually abusing a 3 year old girl.

Even if this was a course of intensive therapy aimed solely at his rehabilitation 18 months would not be enough. His victim will need years of therapy to overcome the damage.

I am sure some judges think that hormonal castration or genital surgery is a good punishment for these men but they have no bloody idea what they are taking about, or if the offender will even have it.

2rebecca · 31/10/2018 04:49

I think having committed a sexual assault especially one involving your penis should be an absolute barrier to transitioning as it shows the person very much identifies with his male body and can use it as a power tool. This is a very male crime. "But I'm really a sweet misunderstood girlie" as an excuse should be given the contempt it deserves. It doesn't reflect well on the trans community either when they don't also say this.

PositiveVibez · 31/10/2018 06:42

That has just made me feel sick and angry in equal measure.

A man committed the abhorrent crime against a 3 year old girl.

What an absolute joke of a sentence and what an absolute fucking sick joke that they will get to serve their time amongst females.

Stop the world. I want to get off.

PositiveVibez · 31/10/2018 06:43

Oh and by the way....this never happens 🙄

Badgerthebodger · 31/10/2018 07:53

Positivevibes

Yep. I’m sickened by this in so many ways. The age of his poor daughter, the length of the sentence and the fact that he is transitioning. The careful reporting of him as “her” and no doubt the same requirement in court. I sincerely hope his daughter and her mother didn’t have to be in court to witness the disgraceful sentence. So progressive. Much woke. It sickens me.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 31/10/2018 08:03

Oh and by the way....this never happens

Yep. And even when it does, it's not that bad. rolls eyes

Just ask Peter Tatchell, who said that he has male and female friends who started having sex at the age of nine with adults and enjoyed it.

That poor little girl.

LangCleg · 31/10/2018 08:05

undergoing a sex change

Is that a self-declared sex change or a surgical sex change?

Avegemitesandwich · 31/10/2018 08:29

Just ask Peter Tatchell, who said that he has male and female friends who started having sex at the age of nine with adults and enjoyed it.

Whhhhaaaaaaattttt?

Childrenofthestones · 31/10/2018 09:32

Avegemitesandwich said

"Just ask Peter Tatchell, who said that he has male and female friends who started having sex at the age of nine with adults and enjoyed it.
Whhhhaaaaaaattttt?"

Up next... Paedophilia,.......is it really so bad?

VickyEadie · 31/10/2018 09:37

I'd like to be in the room when the men making these decisions are deciding this - just to pose a few questions to them.

nellieellie · 31/10/2018 09:43

A paedophile would have a really bad time in a male prison. Do you think there’s any aspect of self protection in this?

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 31/10/2018 09:46

I wouldn't be surprised, nellie.

Scrumplestiltskin · 31/10/2018 09:48

Link to Peter Tatchell's comments on pedophiliac sex: rationalwiki.org/wiki/Peter_Tatchell#Comments_on_paedophilia

Also this case makes me feel sick. Not only has this man committed incest, destroyed his daughter's ability to have a healthy male role model in her father, potentially permanently warped and damaged his daughter's ability to have a healthy sexuality, and committed a pedophiliac sexual abuse act, but then he gets called a woman, and stuck in a female prison.
Honestly, I hope the female inmates see to him, and make sure he can't commit such a crime again.

Worriedmummybekind · 31/10/2018 09:51

I found the woman’s hour discussion really helpful. I’m now thinking that the issue isn’t self ID of gender but that we haven’t withheld certain issues as sex based. So in Ireland they have self ID, but prisons are segregated by sex.

Popchyk · 31/10/2018 09:55

"A Québec City transgender parent who sexually assaulted her young daughter will be serving a sentence in a women’s jail after undergoing a sex change between the time of the crime and the conviction."

Amazing the timing of these conversions to womanhood, isn't it?

We are seeing a lot of people suddenly identifying as women between charges being brought and the trial (which can be a period of years in some serious cases).

In the UK:

Stephen Mottershead

Gary Cooper

NothingOnTellyAgain · 31/10/2018 11:33

"while the defence had recommended 60 days to be served on weekends and community service for the woman, who had no previous criminal record."

60 days!

How defence types have the GALL to suggest this shit is beyond me. I know it's their job but it's a PUNCH in the face to a CHILD who has been sexually abused.

60 days at weekends yes that's all you're worth love, say the lawyers.

Badgerthebodger · 31/10/2018 12:31

Nothingontelly it’s an absolute disgrace. It’s a horrifying crime against a 3 year old, I can’t believe the sentence is so disgustingly lenient. 18 months for sexually assaulting your 3 year old daughter. Every time I think about it I feel more upset for that poor little girl. What a fucking shit human her father is.

R0wantrees · 31/10/2018 13:13

A paedophile would have a really bad time in a male prison. Do you think there’s any aspect of self protection in this?

Francis Crook executive director of the Howard League for Penal Reform "said that she was worried that ‘some men with a history of extreme violence and sexual violence against women have found a new way of exercising aggression towards women’.

‘These men are not transitioning because they like women and want to be a woman, but in order to exert a new kind of control and dominance over women, a sort of infiltration."

source:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5798945/Trans-women-convicted-men-attack-vulnerable-inmates.html

Claude Knights (safeguarding expert, retired after 15 years as head of Kidscape)
on sex offenders who transition and are afforded the opportunity to change their name and hide their history as a consequence & recent case of "Christopher Noble, 32, transitioned to Christyl Knight while behind bars for keeping a stash of over 4,000 vile pictures and videos of kids as young as six months old"

“Allowing these individuals to hide a secret past is a dangerous practice.”
“Anyone who’s fuelled the vile trade in indecent images of children and therefore contributed to their sexual abuse should not be allowed to change their name.”

[[www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3006679/paedophile-jailed-transgender-christyl-knight-christopher-nobile/]]

R0wantrees · 31/10/2018 13:17

this week in Daily Mail: 'Record number of women are being convicted of sex crimes as the total found guilty doubles and the number of teachers grooming pupils shoots up

(extract)
"A record number of women are being convicted of sex crimes, with many of their attacks carried out on children.

Some 142 were guilty of sex offences in 2016 – almost double the 74 convicted two years earlier and more than triple the number at the start of the decade" (continues)

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5465541/Record-number-women-convicted-sex-crimes-Britain.html

Presumably in Canada this is recorded as a crime committed by a female against a child?

Vixxxy · 01/11/2018 16:24

18 months...what a pitiful sentence.

breastfeedingclownfish · 01/11/2018 16:33

This is obscene. It's a scandal of fucking magnitudes when the general public start seeing WTF is going on. I feel sick.

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