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We’re Still Here Conference 8th September: A report from the inside

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TheHarpySings · 18/10/2018 20:28

Hi all

First off, I’m a regular poster, have been here for years under various usernames, it I’m posting here on a name change as I don’t want this traced to me.

On 8th September there was a conference held in London a Bloomsbury Baptist Church which was called We’re Still Here, which featured a variety of panels and workshops and was attended by many prominent people in the pro-GRA reform camp.

I decided to attend to find out what was being said as it was clear that they did not want anyone to attend that wasn’t a TRA or an ally.

What follows are my notes from the day. But first a few notes on attendance:

There were probably 80-100 people in attendance. Overwhelmingly white. Mainly older transwomen. A couple of transmen. Some Mermaids delegates. Some fellow travellers/ allies. And me.

Okay. So here’s my notes

  1. Health Panel:
    Chair was Dr Ben Vincent of GIRES.

    Part of the discussion on this panel was around GPs reluctance to prescribe “bridging hormones”. GPs are reluctant/afraid to prescribe them for liability reasons. Apparently a brand of T-Gel was withdrawn and GPs are reluctant to switch brands.

    There was then a bit of chatter about whether a person’s sex was relevant for healthcare stats.

    Then there was discussion about trans children. Dr Vincent was very scathing about GIDS-said there was disgusting and unethical practices. BV spoke about dispelling the myths about desistance and the myths of ROGD- BV called this “concern trolling, malicious and ethically bankrupt”. BV would like a review of the whole system.

    Then Dr Vincent said that they’d received a review copy of “Born in your own body” edited by Heather Brunskell-Evans and Michele Moore. BV is reviewing it for some Royal College and said “I will tear it a new arsehole”

    Also (and they didn't want this tweeted) BV is also planning a book called Terf Wars which will be a “rigorous takedown of terf arguments” which is getting serialised as articled in some peer reviewed journal- I’m sorry but I couldn’t catch which one.

    Dr Stuart Lorimer, of the Tavistock and Portman who was also a panellist- said that ROGD is “evidence free”.

    There was a great deal of discussion as to the health risks for transwomen taking certain brands of hormones- one person said they knew three other people who’d died taking them, and they’d nearly died as well.
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LittleLebowski · 18/10/2018 21:21

Thank you for this TheHarpysings - you did well to keep it together listening to all that. Some truly chilling stuff.

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MinecraftHolmes · 18/10/2018 21:22

I'm not sure whether to sit in open-mouthed disbelief or to nod my head and say "Yeah that all sounds about right". Nice one OP.

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dolorsit · 18/10/2018 21:22

Well done.

Would you be able to forward this to a journalist?

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YesItsADebate · 18/10/2018 21:24

Anyone know a good defamation lawyer? Wink

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TheHarpySings · 18/10/2018 21:25

dolorsit it has been passed to several journalists already.

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MsMcWoodle · 18/10/2018 21:33

Harpy. You are so brave. This is fascinating stuff. Thank you so much for doing this.
You must be a great actress too.

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LittlePearl · 18/10/2018 21:34

I felt sick reading this.

Something very bad is happening. I feel scared today..... not every day, because there seems to be more awareness in the last couple of weeks but today's been a bad day.

I feel powerless. I can't quite believe it's come to this.

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heresyandwitchcraft · 18/10/2018 21:35

I don't know how you managed to attend the conference and keep a straight face... Remind me never to challenge you to a game of poker. But thank you, OP.

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qumquat · 18/10/2018 21:37

Thank you. Anna Carlisle was one of the people who trained me as a teacher at Goldsmiths. Terrifying that this is what she is peddling now. I've passed the Transgender Trend pack to my Head teacher but I'm going to arrange a meeting to discuss further.

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loveyouradvice · 18/10/2018 21:45

My Shero of the day

Chilling... powerful... and wow SO INTERESTING.

Knowledge is power - thank you for this huge act of sheroism.

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SwearyG · 18/10/2018 21:50

Yes I think self litigation is fairly easy. After all, Giuliana isn’t making a pigs ear of it at all.

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Theinconstantgardener · 18/10/2018 22:07

Thanks op. Truely terrifying reading

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Budgieinaberet · 18/10/2018 22:12

Fucking hell. Thanks Harpie. When you mentioned period poverty I immediately thought didn't LM mention this recently.
12 year olds going to war. Do they not understand that these 12 year olds have seen their sisters and mother's raped and murdered ? I think we know what they wanted to say.
2 year olds and gender WTF.
You are brave.
I am very angry. My MP can be as woke as she bloody wants.
I'm going to be a thorn in her side.

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Pulltheotheroneitsgotbellson · 18/10/2018 22:16

The duplicitousness and manipulative, selfish nature of many of these AWAs need outing. Their lack of conscience and empathy for the safeguarding of women and girls speaks volumes.

Thank you for your service.

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Beagadorsrock · 18/10/2018 22:20

this is the stuff of nightmares
thank you

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theOtherPamAyres · 18/10/2018 22:22

It is chilling to see how they are prepared to use subterfuge, duplicity and dishonesty.

Their plans for separating G-non-conforming children from parents, with the connivance of trans supporting teachers, are outrageous. The arsehole who boasted of being able to plant a fatal review of the Transgender Trend's resource pack, may well find that the comment comes back to bite them on the bum.

The Women's Equality party and the WI and the Fawcett Society all need to take stock in the light of a plan to infiltrate and become the organisers' indispensible volunteers.

Nice work, OP Flowers

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FermatsTheorem · 18/10/2018 22:45

Thanks for this Harpy - you're a brave woman.

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Clinicalwaste · 18/10/2018 22:58

Brave and amazing woman 🍷💐🍟

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KatVonGulag · 18/10/2018 23:01

Thank you. What a bunch they are.

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FadingMint · 18/10/2018 23:06

Grooming, on an industrial scale.

Shattering women's boundaries = shattering child protection.

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stealthsquirrelnutkin · 18/10/2018 23:27

Fascinating. No wonder they didn't encourage anyone who wasn't a confirmed transgenderist attending the meeting.

What a difference between that attitude and the women's meetings, which are open to all, and where the talks are broadcast on youtube.

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BigotedWoman · 18/10/2018 23:27

Fucking fucking fucking hell. Not got anything more articulate than that at the moment. Thank you OP. Can this thread be screenshotted and archived as it may not last.

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Budgieinaberet · 18/10/2018 23:49

Absolutely needs screenshoting

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ScienceIsTruth · 19/10/2018 00:08

Next will come the Gulags for those that won't bow down to this ideology. See you all there bc I will never believe TWAW.

OP, that was a really sinister read. The fact that they've achieved all this in just 10-15 years is truly frightening.
Imagine if women had the same contacts and power! We would've had equality by now, that's for sure!

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naivetyisthenewblack · 19/10/2018 00:10

It's a pretty small web isn't it. Lots of familiar names there.

TheHarpySings well done, sterling work Wine Cake

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