Radio 4 now!

[scepticalwoman]

GRA discussion

Nightmanagerfan It'll be on the BBC iplayer. Look for PM - there'll be a podcast up later I think.

I just might have to move to Monmouth so that David Davies is my MP. I can’t believe I am writing this, about a Tory on the right of his party, but what an amazing man. What a shame NAMALD(avid)!

You mean there wasn't a simpering transwoman butting in the whole time calling names and threatening suicide?
No Stonewall to conclude the talk?

WTF is happening?

David Davis nailed it He basically put across lots of the concerns nice and concisely.

I wish this wasn’t all being said the night before the GRA closes.

NAMALD

That was surprisingly good. DH listened to it all and then railed about how women wanting their own spaces is discriminatory and tantamount to racism and blah blah blah.

Just a small point, it's Carolyn Quinn who presents PM. Sarah Montague presents the World at One.

I just heard the last few seconds and realised it was DD speaking - excited to listen later BUT sooooo late in the day! How many people who hadn’t heard of the consultation are going to slog through it, with its obtuse language and slow website, by tomorrow night?

Any way to listen to it abroad?

What you all said - David Davis was fantastic! So clear, covered so much. Thank you David.

And DD said that the consultation should be cancelled as women's voices had not been heard as well as talking about all the attempts to silence him

That was fab. DD was fab. And this is the second great piece Caroline Quinn has had on this show. She did one about Karen White and you could almost hear the anger and exasperation in her voice.

To listen outside of the UK, if you have a VPN you can set to UK, usually, yes. Or you could try and find the podcast via an app (I use the default app on the iPhone) as that seems to bypass country-specific restrictions.

This link should work, scroll to 17:20 on the bar at the bottom

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_fourfm

This really did cover all the angles that the TRAs have been shouting down with roars of transphobia. And Kathleen Stock is on TV later isn't she?
The BBC and the Guardian in one day - I may need to go and lie down!

(I do realise that these hypocrites are trying to put a year's worth of coverage into 24 hours)

Davis put his arguments across well of course because he's a man. And people listen to men.

I would love to hear his words spoken by a woman - adult human female.

Having said that. Thank you David Davis for saying what you did.

I like this presenter anyway. Carolyn Quinn.

Yes (apologies for misnaming her upthread), she was very clear and sounded suitably outraged when mentioning Karen White (who got an appropriate lot of mentions }

I wish anyone on the left had articulated support for feminist groups as well as Davies managed to. It's heartbreaking that this simply doesn't seem possible anymore.

This has finally got me to write to my (female, conservative) MP.

I would love to hear his words spoken by a woman - adult human female.

I would welcome hearing similar views coming from a female MP. But I understand why they're afraid to speak.

Quinn also has ensured a lovely piece on Anthea Bell the magnificent translator of Asterix and Kafka. Who has died today. RIP.

I wonder whether the BBC 1 will cover it? (bet not)

Yes, can't believe the mention of Karen White wasn't cut short!

Huge Thank you to David Davies, he mentioned he'd never known anything like this in 13 years of politics-speaks volumes.
Also the fact Bercow refused the urgent question re male bodies in womens prisons....that looks VERY bad.