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Life Sentence for White : "You represent a significant risk of serious harm to children, to women and to the general public."

45 replies

SomeDyke · 11/10/2018 13:54

BBC News:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-45825838

Glad to see that the BBC does report the remarks as to using their 'transgender persona' to put themselves in contact with vulnerable women.

And one example like this is one too many! Never should have been allowed to happen, obvious that it would eventually, and also totally bloody obvious what needs to be done to stop it ever happening again.

But then they're only female criminals, so who cares...........

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OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 11/10/2018 14:02

Good. Good.

Was was the percentage marker that white increases prisoner on prisoner assault in women’s prisons by? I remember it being significant.

WokerThanWoke · 11/10/2018 14:04

But could White still get a GRC whilst in prison like that other offender?

PineappleSunrise · 11/10/2018 14:04

I notice that the Beeb is still carefully avoiding misgendering White, in spite of using the quote about the "transgender persona."

Which, I can only deduce, means that in spite of the "this never happens" brigade's "no true Scotsman" defence, the Beeb at least is viewing this as an example of a true TW being a danger to women and children, NOT a predatory man pretending to be trans to access victims. Which is interesting.

Mumsnut · 11/10/2018 14:06

' She could see the defendant's penis erect and sticking out of the top of her pants, covered by her tights.''

A direct quote from the prosecutor, describing the experience of one female prisoner

FFS

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 11/10/2018 14:11

Good. I was glad that the article stated attacked "two women" and not "two other women", which would have made me very cross.

And this was absolutely damning: The court heard White, who was born male, used her "transgender persona" to put herself in contact with vulnerable women.

tothefareast80 · 11/10/2018 14:11

I've just read the comments on the guardian piece about KW. The level of wokeness and insistence that biological women rape men, men rape men in prison and therefore a TW can be incarcerated with women, have made me utterly furious.

Ereshkigal · 11/10/2018 14:14

Yes, never read Guardian CIF! It's woke bro misogynist paradise.

EmeraldVillage · 11/10/2018 14:14

Prosecutor Christopher Dunn told the court: "She is allegedly a transgender female.
"The prosecution say allegedly because there's smatterings of evidence in this case that the defendant's approach to transitioning has been less than committed.
"The prosecution suggest the reason for the lack of commitment towards transitioning is so the defendant can use a transgender persona to put herself in contact with vulnerable persons she can then abuse."

Well let’s not forget that under self ID this dangerous individual merely has to say they are a woman and that is enough. No other commitment needed.

SirVixofVixHall · 11/10/2018 14:17

The telegraoh says that he is transitioning. So do they mean waiting for NHS genital surgery ? As that’s how it sounds. Aside from how terrible that is, would this person then be put back into the woman’s estate ?

JudyDiana · 11/10/2018 14:17

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ErrolTheDragon · 11/10/2018 14:17

Yes, never read Guardian CIF! It's woke bro misogynist paradise.

Sounds like it should help peak any rational people who do read it.

QuietContraryMary · 11/10/2018 14:25

That's 'life' by the way. Minimum tariff of 9 years.

placemats · 11/10/2018 14:25

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/11/transgender-prisoner-who-sexually-assaulted-inmates-jailed-for-life

This person is now back in the male estate.

placemats · 11/10/2018 14:29

The picture of him as a man! Certainly White has changed considerably, which is even more sinister!

KennDodd · 11/10/2018 14:29

How long before they are back in a female prison I wonder?

AornisHades · 11/10/2018 14:30

SirVix I think transitioning can be anything from buying a pair of heels to surgery.

InfidelForever · 11/10/2018 14:30

The Supreme Court demonstrated yesterday that it is capable of common sense, lets hope common sense prevails here and that this person is jailed according to their DNA not some vague "feeling"

Elephantinacravat · 11/10/2018 14:31

Come on guys, there is no debate on this, of course Karen should be in a female pris........ Oh wait.

Life Sentence for White : "You represent a significant risk of serious harm to children, to women and to the general public."
PutItAwayDear · 11/10/2018 14:37

Tell me KW is not serving their sentence in a women's prison?

Datun · 11/10/2018 14:38

That photo is very telling. And it doesn't matter how much they think White 'isn't committed', there's no criteria other than saying it.

Hence the article's pronouns, they still can't bring themselves to #ChooseReality.

Life Sentence for White : "You represent a significant risk of serious harm to children, to women and to the general public."
Datun · 11/10/2018 14:39

Elephantinacravat like minds!

FermatsTheorem · 11/10/2018 14:40

I've just read the comments on the guardian piece about KW. The level of wokeness and insistence that biological women rape men, men rape men in prison and therefore a TW can be incarcerated with women, have made me utterly furious.

There was someone on here last night pushing this line (on the Jo Brand thread). I pointed out that 98% of sex offenders were male, there were more male sex offenders than the total female prison population, there were no specialist women's prisons for sex offenders, and even if you were to open one, you would add to the 120 natal women in prison for sex offences an additional 48 prisoners currently in the male estate for sex offences who "identify as trans". Given that trans people allegedly account for 1% of the population, 48 out of a grand total of 168 seems like something of a statistical anomaly, to put it mildly.

But yes - men do it to other men too. That makes it all fine, doesn't it? Hmm Angry

LangCleg · 11/10/2018 14:49

There you go, woketopians. Your poster child for self-ID.

I hope the BBC continues to mis-sex Karen White so that as many people as possible can see.

Karen White is self-ID.

Once again, for the hard of reading:

KAREN WHITE IS SELF-ID.

GoldenWonderwall · 11/10/2018 14:51

There’s no logic to putting women prisoners at risk of being sexually assaulted and raped just because there are men in prison at risk of being sexually assaulted and raped. Unless you’re the kind of person that thinks everyone should be treated abominably becuse they have committed a crime, which doesn’t seem very Guardian like.

I grew up with the guardian and I might be biased but it was so much better when it was partly based in Manchester and before the board fucked up and lost all their money. Leading liberal voice my arsx.

LangCleg · 11/10/2018 14:52

I pointed out that 98% of sex offenders were male, there were more male sex offenders than the total female prison population, there were no specialist women's prisons for sex offenders, and even if you were to open one, you would add to the 120 natal women in prison for sex offences an additional 48 prisoners currently in the male estate for sex offences who "identify as trans".

And, let's not forget, of the women who actually are categorised as sex offenders, most of them were convicted for assisting the primary perp (a man) or non-contact porn offences.

All that would happen eventually is that we would have a special "women's prison" for Cat A sex offenders and they would all be male.