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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Life Sentence for White : "You represent a significant risk of serious harm to children, to women and to the general public."

45 replies

SomeDyke · 11/10/2018 13:54

BBC News:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-45825838

Glad to see that the BBC does report the remarks as to using their 'transgender persona' to put themselves in contact with vulnerable women.

And one example like this is one too many! Never should have been allowed to happen, obvious that it would eventually, and also totally bloody obvious what needs to be done to stop it ever happening again.

But then they're only female criminals, so who cares...........

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ErrolTheDragon · 11/10/2018 15:11

All that would happen eventually is that we would have a special "women's prison" for Cat A sex offenders and they would all be male.

That would be blackly humorous.

TwistedStitch · 11/10/2018 15:50

The comments under the DM article are pretty good. Seeing him without his make up and wig makes me so angry, those poor women. I really hope they sue.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6265187/Transgender-prisoner-sexually-assaulted-inmates-female-prison.html

FermatsTheorem · 11/10/2018 16:16

Yes Errol I too have entertained moments of black humour over that one - there you are assuming that transitioning will both validate your fetish (NB MN not all trans people are fetishists obviously, but I think we can safely say the ones banged up for sex crimes are) and that you'd be given an access all areas pass to a literally captive pool of victims, and instead you find yourself imprisoned with a load of other be-penised individuals.

LangCleg · 11/10/2018 16:20

and that you'd be given an access all areas pass to a literally captive pool of victims, and instead you find yourself imprisoned with a load of other be-penised individuals

Worse than that too. You'd have to go to the new special prison for high risk women prisoners - because there aren't enough high risk prisoners who are actually women to merit a dedicated prison for them - so there would only be one in the entire country to choose from and so, even if your friends and family wanted to stay in contact, they'd be too far away to ever visit.

There are days when I, too, wish these arseholes would get what they wish for.

KennDodd · 11/10/2018 16:28

This description of White as 'allegedly trans' what's that all about? By all lobbying groups definitions, they ARE trans. I'm kind of hoping that TRAs take up Whites case, insisting White is trans (they're right) and must be held in a female prison, and that the case gets loads of publicity showing the public and MPs what self ID is. I also really hope the women HE assaulted, with HIS penis sue.

Also, do we know if these crimes are going to be recorded in the male or female crime stats?

BigChocFrenzy · 11/10/2018 16:45

We still get trans supporters, including on MN, chanting TWAW
and demanding we show them examples of where transwomen have abused women in formerly single sex spacey.

There must surely have been enough of these predators exposed by now for even the most naive to at least acknowledge the problem Hmm

Transwomen commit violent & sexual offences at the same rate as men .... and I'm even wondering if those now claiming to be trans commit them at a higher rate

That would be the predators taking advantage, which the TWAW chanters claim would happen only once in a blue moon.
A galaxy of blue moons surrounding out little planet now

Men in womens' spaces & SelfID = Predators' Charter

SirVixofVixHall · 11/10/2018 16:48

I am just furious about this, looking at his thuggish face and imagining women being scared of him , with no way of getting away. What total idiocy is it, to put men like this with women, just because they say they feel like women ?

KennDodd · 11/10/2018 16:53

I remember a poster on one of these threads had some numbers around that. It was total mens prison population, percentage of them in prison for sex crimes. Total trans (m2f only) percentage of trans prisoners in prison for sex crimes. I think it worked out that trans women committed sex crimes at a rate something like 2x that of other male prisoners.

KennDodd · 11/10/2018 16:54

I'm guessing a female prison officer would have been forced to search White as well.

stillathing · 11/10/2018 17:10

Yes, never read Guardian CIF! It's woke bro misogynist paradise.

See back when I used to read the Guardian all the time, I always thought the misogynist comments (and there were SO MANY) jarred with the article content and I assumed that non guardian type men came there especially to post. So have the Guardian changed to cater for those men, or were those men the intended audience all along?

gendercritter · 11/10/2018 17:21

Can you imagine how intimidated the women in prison felt on his first day there? Can you imagine having to sot and eat next to him or shower not knowing if he'd appear there?

SPOFS · 11/10/2018 17:27

I hope his victims sue the prison service and end this madness. Angry

FermatsTheorem · 11/10/2018 17:27

See back when I used to read the Guardian all the time, I always thought the misogynist comments (and there were SO MANY) jarred with the article content and I assumed that non guardian type men came there especially to post. So have the Guardian changed to cater for those men, or were those men the intended audience all along?

I used to think this too - assumed that (because it was free to view) loads of right wing trolls used to come along and troll BTL just for the shitz 'n' gigglz.

Then I took out a Telegraph sub... and their BTL comments are an order of magnitude worse.

Which has left me thinking "maybe the Graun's commenters are left dude-bro misogynists, and their claim to SJW status lies in the fact that they're slightly less offensive than the full-on red-blooded misogynists on the Torygraph."

Ah well, "right wing men think women should be their individual property, left wing men think women should be collective property."

PineappleSunrise · 11/10/2018 17:43

Fermat and still, that's exactly what I used to think as well. I was convinced that the CiF commenters were just there to troll the lefties. Now I realise they are just misogynist lefties.

For fun, you should try reading the FT comments on anything about women's rights. They have captured all the successful capitalist misogynists.

whatifido · 11/10/2018 17:45

'The prosecution suggest the reason for the lack of commitment towards transitioning is so the defendant can use a transgender persona to put herself in contact with vulnerable persons she can then abuse.'
...... but of course this will never happen!

hipsterfun · 11/10/2018 18:24

I hope his victims sue the prison service and end this madness.

Would donate to crowdfunder. Does anyone know if this is a possibility?

Melamin · 11/10/2018 18:39

"You represent a significant risk of serious harm to children, to women and to the general public."

With a reference like that from a judge, you would hope that he would never set foot in a women's prison again, and all others like him.

TimeLady · 11/10/2018 20:12

David Challenor, Jacinta Brooks, Karen White - all connected to paedophilia.

SirVixofVixHall · 11/10/2018 21:58

So people don’t care at all about female prisoners. This man was put into a prison for women, at each stage someone looked at him, possibly raised an eyebrow but happily stuck him in there.
And all those people who somehow think because women in prisons have committed crimes and may therefore be less deserving of sympathy or protection ...
....this man could also have changed next to your teenage daughter in TopShop. He could have slept next to you or a woman you know on a sleeper train. He could be in swimming pool changing rooms, in the gym, in the refuge with you. He could be on your hospital ward.
The people trying to present him as fake trans, this is what trans looks like now people, it looks like any creepy man who wants to be where he has easy access to his prey. This is what self id is.

arranfan · 11/10/2018 22:32

I don't wholly agree with it but 4 weeks or so ago this analysis was distributed by Scottish Women:

395 sexual assaults in UK prisons in 2017. I found that only 5% (21) occurred in women's prisons. We know from recent headlines that 4 of those was by...Karen White.
ONE trans prisoner is responsible for 20% of ALL the sex assaults that occurred in women's prisons in 2017!!

The thread has eye-opening tables and numbers: twitter.com/Scottish_Women/status/1038735274392662016

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