Billboard with dictionary definition 'woman: adult human female' removed after pressure from TRAs.

[R0wantrees]

Is the OED now hate speech?

Interesting to note some of the sources of the complaints: twitter.com/Direct_PS/status/1044263398333132800

I have emailed them, called their behaviour disgraceful. No more business from me.

I've cancelled my regular Ocado order for this wk and told customer services to let me know when they put out a media statement on this and I'll use that to determine whether to permanently jump ship or not.

This issue has brought me back to Mumsnet after over a year away. Will trot off now to donate.

What have Lush done this time?

*Iggi999

It would be fascinating if stonewall complained about a board with their own definition on it. And if it stayed up it would open up a lot of people’s eyes to what self id would include.*

I really like this idea.

I've also emailed Ocado and told them to stick it.
Maybe we could devise a list of women-hating companies to boycott.

What have ocado done? I seem to have missed it.
They are a customer of primesite, I can't work out how they have been dragged onto this.
I can't afford ocado anyway but a list of others would be great.

Jilly Ocado tweeted supporting Primesight’s decision to take Posie’s billboard down.

Twitter isn't for the faint-hearted is it.

Pulling up my big adult female pants and going in. I'm going to fight this, I thought I'd peaked before but today I've reached new, dizzying heights.

Iggi999 Tue 25-Sep-18 20:35:09

It would be fascinating if stonewall complained about a board with their own definition on it. And if it stayed up it would open up a lot of people’s eyes to what self id would include.

Good idea.

Stonewall say transwomen are women.
These are the people Stonewall consider trans.... and list them all. Ordinary people think that when people say 'trans' they mean people with gender dysphoria who've had surgery and hormones, and not the reality.

RiverTam, thank you for the explanation. I get it now.
Wonder who does their twitter and ads, they've obviously not thought this through.

"Woman: transgender, transsexual, gender-queer (GQ), gender-fluid, non-binary, gender-variant, crossdresser, genderless, agender, nongender, third gender, two-spirit, bi-gender, trans man, trans woman,trans masculine, trans feminine and neutrois. (Oh, and also adult human female)"

Stonewall say transwomen are women.
These are the people Stonewall consider trans....and list them all. Ordinary people think that when people say 'trans' they mean people with gender dysphoria who've had surgery and hormones, and not the reality.

Listing what surgery is, and what it isn't, (with percentages) would be useful too. And of course the reason we don't do this is the poor "genuine" people who will get caught in the backlash.

Ridiculous so basically a true fact being removed because men dont like fact

Anyone else wondering how long it will be until the TRAs start to attack the Oxford Dictionary and other dictionary companies to get them to change the definition of women in the dictionary?

Will be interesting to see just how long they are able to hold out for and when they update their definition... because the way things are going at the moment they're definitely going to be updating it, even it they add a second definition rather than change the entire thing from how it is currently.

It would be good to get a statement from the dictionary companies that they are not planning on changing the definition of woman any time soon - that although language evolves this particular word hasn't.

Likewise, it would be good to get the BMJ/Royal Colleges of Medicine, Surgery, etc to provide a definition of woman and man to ensure that doctors know exactly what sex people are as it can have important effects of health if the individual is treated as if they were the wrong sex...

And there goes the Standing For Women Twitter account @Humanfemales.

FFS.

Wtf. How is it so fucking easy to shut down women's voices?

Twitter is a disgraceful misogynistic cesspool.

Fuck you Twitter

Thank you Mumsnet

The Times has picked up on it now:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/feminist-s-poster-removed-after-complaint-from-transgender-activist-jlcj8s6n0

But what new definition for Woman can the dictionaries possibly find that is an accurate fit?
Massive own goal by Ade. Publicity money can't buy and I love how they refer to him as Mr not Dr. That's the direction his career is heading.

Bugger twatter. Anyway, reminds me to buy a t shirt and give another donation.

Also I haven't filled in that twitter consultation yet, I will really let rip now.
Are people adding their Twitter names as asked? It's not compulsory. I'm not sure about that.

I’ve just seen that times article on Twitter. It’s as if harrop has never heard of the law of libel. May be he hasn’t? Ms Minshull please see a solicitor!!

The definition of words like “consent” and “paedophile” may also be changing soon.
Thin edge of the wedge.