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Spectator article: Aimee Challenor and the danger of transgender politics

51 replies

TimeLady · 30/08/2018 20:33

Not by our friend James this time. Thank you, Melanie .

Also mentions Bradley, Madigan and self IDing prisoners

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/aimee-challenor-and-the-danger-of-transgender-politics/

I despair at the comments below the line though.by

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SonicVersusGynaephobia · 30/08/2018 20:36

I don't think Aimee's name was Ashley.

Still reading.

Ereshkigal · 30/08/2018 20:37

I think it's a similar name but not quite.

TimeLady · 30/08/2018 20:38

Yes, I noted that too.

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Wanderabout · 30/08/2018 20:39

I wonder who that cabinet minister was. And why they are trying to advance Self-ID.

Wanderabout · 30/08/2018 20:39

Ashton

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 30/08/2018 20:42

"Once Aimee had decided on the dress and female identity, his trajectory into the contemporary establishment – the Greens, Stonewall, the Pride movement and the embrace of the Guardian – was swift and unproblematic. The notion of scrutinising his behaviour towards actual women, let alone his background, was out of bounds. So, while the Greens have disciplined a party activist, Olivia Palmer, for allegedly heckling a trans woman on television, they’ve been oddly equivocal about Aimee."

I liked this part. Glad they are making a point about the double standards.

Ereshkigal · 30/08/2018 20:43

Apart from the changing pronouns and the need to get the correct name of Aimee's blocklist, what a good article.

AncientLights · 30/08/2018 20:43

She refuses to call Challenor , Bradley and Madigan 'she'. Flowers

hackmum · 30/08/2018 20:46

It seems to finish a bit abruptly.

Ereshkigal · 30/08/2018 20:51

My thoughts too, Ancient Wine

carceralfeminist · 30/08/2018 20:54

Oh... they are going to take that article DOWN for the misgendering.

2BorNot2Bvocal · 30/08/2018 21:06

It's still there for the reading.

Wanderabout · 30/08/2018 21:09

They won't take it down Carceral

They might change the gendering.

carceralfeminist · 30/08/2018 21:18

You're probably right Wanderabout
It's certainly a very different pronoun approach than other journalists have used...
I wonder what the response will be.

LemonJello · 30/08/2018 21:19

Heavens! Think that’s the first time I’ve seen Jess Bradley and Lily Madigan called ‘he’ by MSM! You’re a brave woman Melanie!

Wanderabout · 30/08/2018 21:21

Will be interesting to see.

thebewilderness · 30/08/2018 21:22

Ashton is Challanor Juniors birth name

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 30/08/2018 21:22

That's a very heartening article. It's nice to see someone else sticking their head above the parapet.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 30/08/2018 21:24

She wrote this too blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/07/of-course-a-man-hasnt-had-a-baby-lets-not-pretend-otherwise/ (paywall)

shakeyourcaboose · 30/08/2018 21:27

Off topic but wanted to bring attention to a post on site stuff where HQ are giving access to unnamed academics from unnamed university for unnamed research to collate information on how MN users post ....(tinfoil hat at the ready!)

thecatfromjapan · 30/08/2018 21:29

Every time I see a MSM commentator speaking up, I feel like covering my house in bunting.

Charliethefeminist · 30/08/2018 21:40

Thank you Melanie I love you muchly StarFlowers

HavingALittleBabyToolshed · 30/08/2018 21:50

Her choice of wording is very interesting.
Where did someon see that she was being made to change the pronouns?

Pumpkinsarepurple · 30/08/2018 21:56

That doesn't pull any punches, however I can't see this being allowed to stand in this form for long.

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