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Star Trek: Discovery Spoilers!!!

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ISaySteadyOn · 28/09/2017 11:54

First glimpse of Starfleet officers in the first fifteen minutes are two women, a captain and a first officer. Not only that, but the first thing they talk about is if they are lost or not. Seems a good start so far.

With all the bad news going round, I just wanted to share something good.

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GeekyBlinders · 22/01/2018 20:52

Not loving creepy stalking Lorca, that came out wrong in my post above.

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SimonBridges · 22/01/2018 20:58

I’m here.
I was ready to give up on it as a hate parallel universe stuff but it just got interesting.

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ISaySteadyOn · 23/01/2018 06:34

Haven't seen the latest but I knew it about Tyler and Voq. Also, of course Giorgiou was the Emperor. Just glad to see Michelle Yeoh back!

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PocketCoffeeEspresso · 23/01/2018 06:38

I dunno. I think there's some things to be said about Tilly only being taken seriously/finding her feet once she straightened her curly hair I think.

And I'm still not feeling these new klingons - I miss the rowdy ones so much.

And whilst I like the whizzy way the ship translates, I would just like a straightforward plot for once, without time travel, parallel universes, evil twins or all that stuff. What happened to plain space adventures.

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ISaySteadyOn · 23/01/2018 06:45

Good point about Tilly straightening her hair. Also, she went blonde didn't she?

As to episodes, I agree. Do you remember Data's Day from Next Gen? I loved that one.

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PocketCoffeeEspresso · 23/01/2018 07:45

I actually really like the fade from redhead to blonde from the top of her head to the ends.. if there were blue tips then it look like the nose cone of a rocket as it heats up.. would be awesome.. but probably not appropriate for a Captain.

I have so many fond next-gen memories, from when I watched it as a kid, then my youngest and I used to watch it together when he was a toddler (he used to sing the theme tune). They took it from light hearted (like Data's Day) to heavy weight (Tasha, Picard being assimilated), they took the time to let us get to know people etc.

I think that's where they've gone a bit wrong with Enterprise and Discovery - just as I was getting to know and like the Enterprise crew, they went all time-travelly, and they haven't even bothered with Discovery - we're just straight into deep plot before we know almost anything about anyone. Makes me a bit sad.

Perhaps I just like things to go a bit slower than they're prepared to do these days. I should just go back and re-watch the old stuff probably.

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GeekyBlinders · 23/01/2018 11:35

It has been a bit plot-arc-y right from the start - it would be nice to have some "monster of the week" episodes too but I don't know how they'd fit in with the way the series has developed. And that may make the series less long-runnng.

I take your point about Tilly's hair. At least they haven't made her lose loads of weight.

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ArcheryAnnie · 22/02/2018 10:35

Am very late to the Discovery party!

We really enjoyed it. I wasn't sure at first about the mirror universe episodes, but then got into it. I also liked that we aren't sure of anyone at all by the end - goodies turn bad, annoying people turn admirable, people turn into entirely other people who look exactly like them...

I was sympathetic to Ash/Voq, as whatever he'd done, the Ash side of him was a tortured victim and prisoner of war, but as soon as Ash did the angry "I can't do it without you" speech to Michael, I was done with him. Blech.

Saru. I adore Saru. I am completely weirded out that Michael was coerced into eating Mirror!Saru.

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ISaySteadyOn · 22/02/2018 10:37

Saru should be captain.

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LittleLebowski · 22/02/2018 10:41

Saru is also I think the sea-creature in The Shape of Water. Love him too. Was so upset when Michael had to eat him!

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ALunerExplorer · 22/02/2018 11:41

REALLY?

Oh now I have even more reason to watch The Shape of Water.

I am, I should note, immensely happy to find that there is a Discovery thread here. I haven't loved a Star Trek re-boot this much since Voyager. Roll on season 2!

(Side note: Is there a similar thread about Miss Fishers Murder Mysteries at all? Enquiring minds want to know.... )

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ArcheryAnnie · 22/02/2018 12:17

Saru has HOOVES. Can you imagine how tiring that must be for the actor, to walk in shoes like that all day?