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Another vent about my father's wife... sorry

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Sunnywithshowers · 24/02/2013 18:42

My father posted on Facebook today that he was horrified that men were in Oxford's cheerleading team. Wife posts in agreement because 'men should be men and women should be women'.

I tell dad that it's because cheerleading is a gymnastic sport and men tend to chuck women around (technical term :)). Cue dad saying thanks, he didn't know that.

This was her response: No

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bran · 24/02/2013 18:49

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roughtyping · 24/02/2013 18:50

Ha bran! Excellent plan!

FloraFox · 24/02/2013 18:50

The country is going to the dogs because there are men cheerleading? Wow. Never mind the economy, who cares about the AAA rating... it's all about the cheerleaders.

Sunnywithshowers · 24/02/2013 18:53

I may try your tip next time bran. :)

A while ago she commented that she couldn't post on a lot of peoples' pages - I wonder why...

Dad and I have a strained relationship (even more so since I've found out he's been born again as a sexist, creationist, homophobe) and I try and be polite to her. But she's a nasty fuckwit with no sense of humour.

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AThingInYourLife · 24/02/2013 18:56

"No

Moominsarehippos · 24/02/2013 18:59

Has she been the bad influence on your dad?

PuddingWhine · 24/02/2013 19:04

She can't possibly be so weird as to think that men doing traditionally female things (not that I approve of cheerleading, I would tell my dd to go out and do her OWN sport, a real sport) but nobody feels that men cheerleading is the breakdown of society, she was in primitive terms urinating around the lampost.

I really like the "i love your sense of humour!" suggestion. Love that. Will use that soon I hope!

Sunnywithshowers · 24/02/2013 19:13

moomin This is my dad's third marriage and he changes personality traits with each one. He was a dope-smoking, left wing hippy and folk singer when married to my mum. Then went on to be a slightly right wing liberal new ager when married to my stepmum.

Now he's a born again Christian who thinks gays are an abomination, the world was created in 7 days, men and women have specific gender roles and atheists are all communists. He's always been big on gender roles (EA to my mother: stopped her wearing make up while bringing up me and DSis)

I don't blame her for being a bad influence. He's almost always been a selfish man and I think now he's merely letting his prejudices out freely, rather than hiding them and being 'Mr Nice Guy'. (As for being a loving Christian he regularly will go 2/3 years without phoning me - FB means that he remembers I'm alive occasionally.

Thing :)

Pudding yes she can be that weird.

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TheCrackFox · 24/02/2013 19:14

You could always inform her that you thought she would be pleased that men are doing a traditional sport.

Cheerleading used to be a male preserve

Would be interesting to see how she argues herself out of this one.

Sunnywithshowers · 24/02/2013 19:15

Crackfox that is awesome - thank you. It's going straight on FB!

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SanityClause · 24/02/2013 19:21

Wow, CrackFox, I learn something new on MN, every day!

Sunnywithshowers · 24/02/2013 19:23

I got this response to that link:

Bothered!

Grin
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StewieGriffinsMom · 24/02/2013 19:24

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PuddingWhine · 24/02/2013 19:26

wow sunny! did your father marry somebody younger than you! I'm trying to imagine saying "bothered" to somebody older than I am!

Sunnywithshowers · 24/02/2013 19:53

She's about 14 years older than me, and a grandmother.

It's a hugely mature response :)

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MinnieBar · 24/02/2013 20:21

Suggest she watches 'Bring It On' - male cheerleaders aplenty there. Plus Faith from Buffy is in it.
Probably not the place to say it, but I love that film!

StarNoodle · 24/02/2013 20:27

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kickassangel · 24/02/2013 23:39

Glad someone could link to an article.

But why should she bother to read something factual when she can just be a bigot?

tribpot · 24/02/2013 23:43

But you see her point - the economy is doomed because men are STEALING WOMEN'S JOBS.

Ponders · 24/02/2013 23:44

\link{http://www.omg-facts.com/Sports/George-W-Bush-Was-A-Cheerleader/32770\George W Bush was a cheerleader at college}

I think she needs to know that Grin

(apols if this was already linked)

Tortoiseonthehalfshell · 24/02/2013 23:45

(What does "bothered" mean? In this context?)

Ponders · 24/02/2013 23:47

"do I look bothered?"

Ponders · 24/02/2013 23:47

(Catherine Tate)

Greensleeves · 24/02/2013 23:47

She sounds as thick as pig mince

Is she a sexist creationist homophobe too?

I would post "it's spelt bovvered" but then I am very childish. Moreover I wouldn't waste time and effort thinking up an intelligent responsibility for somebody who thinks the Earth is flat Grin

tribpot · 24/02/2013 23:48

I think it means she is discounting Sunnywithshowers' response because it doesn't fit with her crackpot narrow world view.

I'd be tempted to follow up with a naffola response like 'Wicked' - doesn't make any sense, isn't properly down with the kidz but it stops her from getting the last word. Innit. (I don't say 'innit' like that except sarcastically).

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