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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Discussion on Woman's Hour NOW about raunch culture, objectification of women etc.

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HerBeatitude · 29/10/2010 10:28

Just thought I'd let you all know...

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dittany · 29/10/2010 17:57

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 17:59

Hang on hang on hang on - isn't this connected to the other tosser on woman's hour? The one who spoke in favour of street harrassment?

sethstarkaddersmummyreturns · 29/10/2010 18:01

yes, this is Brendan O'Neill's gang.

EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 18:02

Brendan O'Neill - he spoke at the Battle of Ideas back in March but he sounds very similar to them. Is this ringing a bell dittany I'm sure you did some digging then?

dittany · 29/10/2010 18:02

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 18:04

ooh found it - living marxism?

dittany · 29/10/2010 18:05

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 18:12

I wonder who's pals with/sleeping with who?

dittany · 29/10/2010 18:16

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Prolesworth · 29/10/2010 18:28

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 18:31

Looks like she's been on talking about "what is a just war for feminists".

Am ROFLing/weeping at this result on google: "BBC - Radio 4 Messageboard - Woman's Hour - Do Women Debate? This discussion has been closed ..."

Prolesworth · 29/10/2010 18:33

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 18:33

They're doing a debate at the Battle of Ideas on "Rape and the law - he said she said?"

EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 18:35

Proles! Fucking hell:

"In 2010 rape is widely abhorred by men and women alike, and attitudes to women?s sexuality are enlightened and modern."

WRONG try again.

EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 18:37

"Then there is the fact that the defendant is sometimes innocent. This is too easy to forget." Is it really? maybe if you live in a media-free world and never converse with fuckheads it is. But seeing as you know Brendan O'Neill and you write in a newspaper I find that kind of hard to believe.

dittany · 29/10/2010 18:39

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dittany · 29/10/2010 18:42

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 29/10/2010 18:42

That is one of the worst things I have ever read on the subject of rape. It ticks all the boxes: reference to "consent forms", mention of "real rape", "infantilising" women by taking rape seriously, talk about "regret" the next morning.

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HerBeatitude · 29/10/2010 19:27

No I wasn't thinking of going unless other people are.

We could all form a MN mob and go and argue with the fuckers. There will be credulous people there who will buy their arguments, but might be open to intelligent ones if any are presented.

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dittany · 29/10/2010 19:30

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HerBeatitude · 29/10/2010 19:35

God yes, using their own tactics against them. Grin

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Shallishanti · 29/10/2010 19:36

thanks for the info on worldwrite, they used to send me info in my last job, some of it was really wierd, esp a piece about how misconceived anti racism was.....it's beginning to make sense now

EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 30/10/2010 00:20

how misconceived is anti-racism?

HerBeatitude · 30/10/2010 00:24

I expect it's something to do with it being top-down, institutionalised anti-racism imposed on the populace without discussion (from what I remember of Living Marxism...)

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 30/10/2010 00:29

Is this really what Marxism/Trotskyism is all about? What happened to all that redistribution of wealth stuff? Had no idea it was just about promotion of Bloody Stupid Ideas and saying that rape and racism are the will of the people Hmm