I’ve had a message spiritualist church

[Touty]

So I had a message from my father tonight, I feel shocked and happy.

I wonder if he will come through again if I keep going.

do you want to share the message? Hope it brought you some comfort? I wish I could hear from my grandad

Yes the medium said that he was standing behind me, he said I had been worried about the way that he passed and that I shouldn’t be worried, also that I should do things my own way and not what others want

I I had been worried and sad about how he passed, he was on his own in the car, he had a brain haemorrhage, I keep thinking about the fact that he was on his own and how frightened he must have been.

It’s understandable why you’re feeling the way you are, but I hope it can bring you some comfort that he wouldn’t have been aware of what was happening, he wouldn’t have been frightened and he wouldn’t have felt anything

How can I make sure he comes back when I go to the church again?

I’m sorry, you can’t. It’s not real. It’s just some people who are very good at knowing what to say to get you to think otherwise. Please don’t get sucked in. It ruined my mum when she got sucked into this. If you are struggling with grief, have you looked at therapy?

No, you didn't. You had a message from a scammer.

It usually involves handing over a lot of cash to a completely unscrupulous scammer who is exploiting your grief for their own gain.

How much did this scammer charge you ?

I paid 4 pounds entrance fee to the church that was it.

I do believe. But I acknowledge that there are con artists out there.

All of them are con artists.

I'd suggest grief counselling, it'll help.

@TransportNerd how can you be so sure all of them are con artists?

Because communication with the dead is impossible.

Why on earth do people come onto the Paranormal board to shit all over peoples beliefs and experiences, and tell them it's all nonsense and rubbish, and all in their imagination? If people don't 'believe' then why are they even on the board?

That's like me jumping onto the 'childfree by choice' board and giving a bunch of reasons why people should choose to have children, and that they're 'wrong' to choose to not have them! It's such rude and arrogant behaviour. How DARE people tell others that their experience is fake/invalid/not real, and that it's all rubbish?!

@Touty I don't think that you can make your father show himself or guarantee he will appear again, but I wish you all the luck in the world in seeing him again. Ignore the naysayers! You know what you saw.

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Actually you do not know that. There are things we know now that would have been bizarre many years ago. You do not categorically know that communication with the dead is impossible. You can think that and that is okay. That can be your opinion and that is okay too. But leave people, who let’s face it have posted on the paranormal board, have their beliefs.

I'll keep saying it because people who claim to be mediums are vultures preying on the lonely and grieving, and that's one of the absolute lowest, shittiest things you can do to someone suffering.

I'm not heartless, I'm quite the opposite. People are being scammed by absolute chancers when wallowing in misery.

I've had counselling and therapy for the difficult stuff I've experienced. That's a far better way to deal with your struggles.

@TransportNerd you can 'keep on saying it' as much as you like, (that you think the paranormal is fake/a load of nonsense,) but people who have their beliefs (about the paranormal) are not going to take any notice of you. So you're wasting your breath.

Do you seriously think that someone in their 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, or older is going to suddenly stop believing in life after death and the paranormal, and cast aside their whole belief system (that they've held for their entire life) because some random on the internet says it's all a load of crap?! Do me a favour!

Plus, the OP has not said at any point that she is being scammed and ripped off. She only paid £4 for an entrance fee into the place, and that's it.

Stop projecting your issues onto other people.

I stopped being a Christian in my 40s.

Sure it was only four quid, but if she goes week after week, that's a lot of four quids going into the pockets of charlatans profiting off her suffering.

That makes me angry.

But you have no idea what her path is and you are actually being arrogant to think that you know better. Make decisions about your own life and leave others to make theirs.

That's what I'm doing. Threads like this invite expressions of opinion. People can do with that opinion whatever they want.

My opinion is that you are ill-informed and bitter about someone else’s choices in life.

I'm actually very well informed, because I've been through hell at the hands of people claiming spiritual abilities, and it's cost me money, years of my life and my wellbeing.

It breaks my heart to see people taken in by this, and I will do anything to try and warn them off it.

THIS 🙏

i don’t know why people have to be so awful. I’m a firm believer but for those who aren’t, just be pleased another human who is grieving found some comfort.