Hunting for the first time, I'm terrified

[FirstHunt]

Am hunting on Monday it.l be the 4th time I've ridden the horse though he has hunted, I've popped over some small jumps in the school but I've never ever jumped a hedge, will I have to jump? if I don't jump am I likely to be left behind massively that's something he really doesn't like. I don't mind popping over small stuff but not huge hedges etc.

Start eventing, now you are trying to kill me

Jade80, sorry but you are talking bollocks. You will continue to spout such bollocks as long as you support the hunt. Because spouting bollocks is the only way to justify it.

OP - I sincerely hope that this thread has opened your eyes to the reality of a hunt.

It's like Starbucks saying 'we don't need to pay tax - technically'. We all know is't a crock.

Nope, no lies here. What's to lie about? I occasionally follow a hunt, who I have no reason to believe do anything illegal, I've found the people to be pleasant and I've never seen anything horrific. I'll continue to do so until i hear an argument that convinces me it isn't a good idea. You're free to do as you wish too. Best of luck to you- you won't find me resorting to slinging abuse like some on this thread.

what beer just said ^^ is what i meant by us not being thick....as in not quite getting the whole "what us guv, no guv, we operate within the law now guv...." thing.

which is clearly absolute and utter bollocks.

i do hope that clarifies what i meant.

firsthunt.....well i know....just a suggestion! i would break my neck im sure....but there are very thrilling ways of getting horsey kicks without killing things is what i was trying to illustrate!

best of luck

Totally agree with Saggy's last post- Saggy I envy your eloquence!

Did canines in fact domesticate early humans? Our 'problem' as a proto-sedentary species was always food and faecal waste. Scavengers and processors were essential on the edges.

Just perspective, really. Humans needed them much more than they need us.

The palaeolithic coprolite evidence from Sudan is amazing btw.

I have a good friend who is as huntin' shootin' fishin' as they come.

We have table-thumping arguments & he enjoys winding me up by sending Countryside Alliance Xmas cards.

I respect his right to vote for any political party that'll bring back legal hunting, to lobby the government of the day & to engage me & anyone else in impassioned argument on the subject.

His views on people who do the whole 'oh yeah, we're hunting within the law. Whoops. Accidentally killed another one' are if anything less tolerant than mine.

Even if you can convince yourself that ripping an animal apart for fun is an enjoyable day out for all the family, to slide around the edges of the law in this dishonest, sniggering manner is morally bankrupt.

It's one thing my blood-sporty mate & I can agree on without hesitation.

Shameful.

You want it back, campaign for it, & see how many of the public agree with you.

I sort of see what you mean vicar, but still I haven't seen anything illegal myself- yes hunting has changed since the act, but that's to take account of the act and stay within the law!

Saggy

'You don't have much experience of hunt monitors do you!'

Enough, actually.

I'd love to see you provide evidence of one releasing a fox to the hounds for the sake of a youtube link.

Linerunner, what was your degree in?

The problem of animal exploitation is not helped much by the hunting of a wild animal to a cruel death, in the name of sport, Saggy.

But I can see why you'd want to deflect the argument - after all fox hunting has no justification, per se.

But, maybe, just maybe, if you start talking about other cruelties to animals, people will stop making such a fuss about fox hunting? And then you just enjoy your sport in peace. It must be a pain having these Monitors spoiling your fun by mentioning these pesky Laws and things.

well said raven

and on this note i shall now have to get to bed - im at the stables tomorrow! riding lesson and then helping out.....no good if im yawning my head off!

goodnight all and please lets keep the debate civil and honest. im pretty sure that most people dont support hunting with dogs.

its just a shame the law is flouted so openly.

No. Cainines exploited early humans for their own ends. They took advantage of our habitations and early ways to make their lives easier, just as we exploited their ways for our own ends. Not sure what this actually has to do with hunting?

Night, enjoy your lesson!

Vicar, I'm sure you'll be careful not to accidentally kill any foxes that cross your path tomorrow

I have a number of pointless degrees in the equivalent of the Geology of Human Shit.

Ok beer tricks, I allow the hunt to cross my land to disperse foxes (not to kill, as this is illegal) I also allow one man to shoot them with a shotgun as none are now hunted. Is this ok with you?

thanks jade - i will, i love being at the yard. It really helps me get through the week.

goodnight all.

If I had known I could get a degree in the geology of human shit there is no way I would have done the degree I did!

Night.

Has been interesting.

Or should that be "kill any foxes who accidentally cross your path tomorrow"??

Who knows? If there's a loophole to exploit, you'll always find some dick in a red (or black) jacket to exploit it.

I had to do maths and everything