Hunting for the first time, I'm terrified

[FirstHunt]

Am hunting on Monday it.l be the 4th time I've ridden the horse though he has hunted, I've popped over some small jumps in the school but I've never ever jumped a hedge, will I have to jump? if I don't jump am I likely to be left behind massively that's something he really doesn't like. I don't mind popping over small stuff but not huge hedges etc.

Yes, I do as one person have a view on what's cruel and act on it including posting on this thread.

Does a goldfish not have rights then?

yeah i meant moot

forgive me grammar police.

its still a sick practice though....chasing down animals to kill for pleasure no matter how much you pull my spelling apart.....

Divertionary tactics are so infra dig.

Why on earth would you imagine those observing & protesting against cruelty to animals would have released that vixen, Saggy?

I know it's a tricky concept for those who hurt & kill animals for fun to get their head around, but y'know, the rest of us tend not to.

I don't think you can use the term 'sabs' anymore, either. If hunting foxes is illegal & you only kill them by accident these days , it's hardly 'sabotage' to aid in the prevention of an illegal act.

Dog fighting is also illegal. Folks who organise this don't get a 'free pass' because the dogs just happened to bump into each other and get into a fight, or because they really really really enjoy the 'sport' amd don't see why they should stop just because 'Johnny Politician' says they should.

'to kill for pleasure'... yes of course, that's exactly what I've been saying

I agree, Beer, although I am keen to discuss palaeolithic caves at any time.

op is an arse. So is anyone else who tries to justify this horrendous act.

Just watching those other Hunt Monitor videos on Youtube, the pro hunt lobby are just vile. I do wonder just why it is so important for the hunt to get at a wild fox like this. Because that is what they do, even though they pretend to stay "within the Law".

They want to hunt a wild animal into exhaustion and a painful death, for what? To prove how 'superior' they are? To show what good horsemen/women they are? All the ones I've ever seen just look like idiots. (Oh, but they'll pretend it's all for the control of fox numbers, even though anyone remotely educated knows that this is a complete fallacy).

I really admire the Hunt monitors.

beer thats not going to happen.....its much easier to talk about the meat industry.

so lets talk about those horses that go for meat then and end up in burgers....all those needlessly bred horses that end up going to the continent for slaughter and who are kept in abysmal conditions.....i jsut read a horrific expose in an old Your Horse magazine.....and my mate just posted something that i couldnt even watch on facebook about a slaughter house in the UK that wasnt even stunning horses properly before slaughter.

cruelty abounds in this world.
its not right though is it?
foxes, horses, - all the same to me. sentient beings that feel pain.

beer tricks, I currently support a fox hunt that hunts within the law. There is no hunting illegally with dogs for me to focus on, because I dont do it. Should the law be repealed, my views won't change. Should the law stand, I will continue to support the hunt as they work with the law.

But beer tricks, there are no animals being ripped apart, as the hunt I follow hunts within the law. I still follow them, in support of what they stand for. So your argument is invalid- no deaths caused by hounds, yet I go anyway?

Fwiw I don't think I will go now.

jade80, what you, and your hunt are doing, is exploiting a loophole in the law - and that is morally wrong and you know it.

Saying that you want to do it, or that you think it's right, is not a defence.

Aw bollocks. It's illegal, it's cruel. Let it go the way of bear bating and shoving children up chimneys. Find a passtime that doesn't kill anything or karma will bite you on the arse.

oh jade come off it.

we are not that thick.

please.

Line runner, I am also up for a discussion of paleolithic caves!

firsthunt if what you say is true i salute you. Its a very thrilling experience i am sure - but so is drag hunting or hacking with experienced riders cross country.

start eventing or something equally thrilling.

Firsthunt - I cannot tell you how pleases I am to hear that.

Take your new horse for lovely hacks etc, instead.

Don't participate in anything that might lead to the needless cruelty of a live animal for sport.

All the best, OP.

Sabrina, but the loophole was deliberately left to appease the animal rights brigade while allowing hunts to continue operating for the time being. Was it not?

I am not defending anything, simply stating my views. Others are entited to their own views.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'not that thick' vicar- I don't think anyone is think, just that you have different views.

Why on earth would you imagine those observing & protesting against cruelty to animals would have released that vixen, Saggy?
You don't have much experience of hunt monitors do you!
We try and widen the debate because the issue of animal exploitation is HUGE! it's an insurmountable problem which encompassed the whole world. And whether or not the animal in question is 'domesticated' is totally beside the point! Fox hunting isn't even the tip of the iceberg, it's a flea standing on the tip of the iceberg!